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#60879 - 02/19/02 02:58 AM It's A Crime
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It really is a shame that the old City Hall station is not in use today. Tonight I took the 6 through the loop & saw the station.
Since they don't have it open they at least should put the lights on !!!
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#60880 - 02/19/02 03:34 AM Re: It's A Crime
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Originally posted by Mike:
Since they don't have it open they at least should put the lights on !!!


What? If it's closed, why have the lights on? Just a waste of electricity.

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#60881 - 02/20/02 04:46 AM Re: It's A Crime
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Originally posted by Imitation Of Tevi...:
What? If it's closed, why have the lights on? Just a waste of electricity.


Actually, lights burn less electricity when left on as opposed to turning them on and off. The obvious reason is safty and light for the trains.

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#60882 - 02/20/02 11:39 AM Re: It's A Crime
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Originally posted by Mike:
It really is a shame that the old City Hall station is not in use today. Tonight I took the 6 through the loop & saw the station.
Since they don't have it open they at least should put the lights on !!!


The station itself could not be used for several reasons, among them:

The station is only 5 cars long.
It is on a severe curve and none of the doors on current equipment would properly line up with the platform. When the subway opened in 1904, the cars had only 2 sets of doors which were located at rhe extreme ends of the car. These could line up with the platform. The rest of the car had a wide gap between itself an the platform.
Let the station stay closed to passenger use so that it can remain the pristine station that it is.

The Transit Museum is still hoping to be able to open it as an annex sometime in the very near future. It was supposed to happen a couple of years ago but our previous Mayor was extremely paranoid (9/11 not withstanding) about someone trying to blow up City Hall he prevented it. In fact the contractor doing the rehab on City Hall Park actually damaged the vault ceiling blocks. It had to be reported in the newspapers before the administration told them to fix it.

[ 02-20-2002: Message edited by: TrainRider ]
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#60883 - 02/20/02 11:51 AM Re: It's A Crime
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Originally posted by TrainRider:
The Transit Museum is still hoping to be able to open it as an annex sometime in the very near future. It was supposed to happen a couple of years ago but our previous Mayor was extremely paranoid (9/11 not withstanding) about someone trying to blow up City Hall he prevented it.


Anybody familar with Guy Fawkes? He's the guy (no pun intended) who tunneled under Parliment and tried to blow it up. And hey, at least we knew where Rudy was!
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#60884 - 02/21/02 02:38 AM Re: It's A Crime
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What is holding a guy from carrying a case of plastic explosives and planting it under one of those folding seats on r142 trains, and setting it to explode just when the train is making the loop... mad
If people keep takling about the possible attack to city hall, it will get their eyes open.. eek
anyway...

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#60885 - 02/21/02 02:21 PM Re: It's A Crime
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Originally posted by Interborough:
Actually, lights burn less electricity when left on as opposed to turning them on and off. The obvious reason is safty and light for the trains.


By this theory we should have light every 5 feet in the tunnels.

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#60886 - 02/22/02 03:19 PM Re: It's A Crime
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Originally posted by Imitation Of Tevi...:
By this theory we should have light every 5 feet in the tunnels.


Better yet, sections of tunnel should light as the train enters them.

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#60887 - 02/22/02 06:52 PM Re: It's A Crime
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Originally posted by hyedipin:
What is holding a guy from carrying a case of plastic explosives and planting it under one of those folding seats on r142 trains, and setting it to explode just when the train is making the loop... mad
If people keep takling about the possible attack to city hall, it will get their eyes open.. eek
anyway...


Do we actually know how many minutes does it take for the train to travel from BB to City Hall. Besides from that, how are we sure that maybe (but not likely) the tunnel can withstand the explosion and not cave in.
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#60888 - 02/23/02 12:46 PM Re: It's A Crime
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Originally posted by Interborough:
Actually, lights burn less electricity when left on as opposed to turning them on and off. The obvious reason is safty and light for the trains.


Actually, as far as electriciyt use is concerned, generally- when one turns on a 110 watt lightbulb it consumes 11 minutes worth of electricity. After 11 minutes, you're just burning electricity.

You're right, I think, about it being a safety issue.

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#60889 - 02/23/02 07:24 PM Re: It's A Crime
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Originally posted by Bored of the Six:
Do we actually know how many minutes does it take for the train to travel from BB to City Hall. Besides from that, how are we sure that maybe (but not likely) the tunnel can withstand the explosion and not cave in.


Aren't the loop and station mostly under the park, and not under city hall itself?

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#60890 - 02/25/02 04:47 AM Re: It's A Crime
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bored of the Six:
Do we actually know how many minutes does it take for the train to travel from BB to City Hall. Besides from that, how are we sure that maybe (but not likely) the tunnel can withstand the explosion and not cave in.


If it were to stand that kind of pressure, they would have the station open for visits.. I don't think it can withstand that, it is too near to ground. There are only several logs holding the park or whatever is above it.

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