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#496847 - 02/22/10 06:30 PM Letting 4/5/6 trains go by
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Whats the most amount of 4/5 or 6 trains you had to let go by because it was full?

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#496935 - 02/25/10 06:15 PM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: R160Etrain]
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I've let a ton of 6 trains go by while waiting at 51 St southbound...I let 4 go buy one time on the way to the dentist but since I couldn't wait any longer, I actually walked to the E and took it downtown and walked cuz the 6's were TOO crowded. Granted I was only going to B'klyn Br, and could've got the 4 or 5 at 42 St, but the 6 had too many people. It was outrageous. I guess IRT cars are just too small.
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#496946 - 02/26/10 06:10 PM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: toure]
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I've only had to let one go at a time. I'm short, so I can crawl under people's arms. It's true... sad, but true.
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#497003 - 03/01/10 12:13 PM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: RokuSix]
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I've let a bunch of 4's go by before. Once, I had to let 3 of them go before I could get on at 149th St-Grand Concourse. I was mad as all hell that night. I've let a couple of 6's go by in the past too but not like the 4.
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#497016 - 03/02/10 04:12 AM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: Princelex]
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Lol i'm sorry for laughing but the way you said it sounded so funny.
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#497017 - 03/02/10 08:31 AM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: toure]
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I've let at least one Uptown (4) train go at 161st Street during the AM Rush. The Uptown trains are filled with students as many schools are along the (4), especially north of Burnside Avenue.
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#497025 - 03/02/10 12:29 PM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: cotb16]
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It goes along with what I said in another thread, the most packed station is 149-GC going uptown on the (4); not in terms of how many people are trying to get on the train (the stops in Manhattan trump that without too much difficulty) but the combination of how many people are already on the train with how many are trying to get on with various times of the day of which to board. Even at 2 or 3 in the morning the uptown trains are standing room only, there is no seat awaiting people that just got off the (2) downstairs unless they go to the back of the train.
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#497104 - 03/04/10 09:12 PM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: TwoTimer]
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The most 6 trains I've had to let go by were 2. Getting in is almost always guaranteed on the 6, it's just a matter of whether you stand in the correct position for the doors or not, and how far away you are from the doors (i.e. how many people are in front of you).

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#498292 - 05/19/10 01:53 AM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: R32_3348]
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I guess I've always managed to cram on board. The few times I didn't make it was because I was stuck on the platform behind people who gave up. mad

When it's crowded I go to the end of the platform. The very last door on the last car, usually I get in. (Downside - the far far ends of some platforms are really nasty.)

End of the platform even worked at GCT in the AM rush (needing a 6 to 23d St) until I discovered the M1 is almost as fast. And a lot more civilized!

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#498324 - 05/20/10 07:32 PM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: tommy meehan]
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Originally Posted By: tommy meehan


End of the platform even worked at GCT in the AM rush (needing a 6 to 23d St) until I discovered the M1 is almost as fast. And a lot more civilized!


This is the first time I've heard of a Manhattan bus being faster than the subway. Things are that bad, huh? smile
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#498329 - 05/20/10 08:47 PM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: RokuSix]
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The 6 was crush loaded on the weekend, I can only imagine what goes on during rush hour(i mostly ride the E)

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#498334 - 05/20/10 11:48 PM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: RokuSix]
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Originally Posted By: RokuSix
This is the first time I've heard of a Manhattan bus being faster than the subway.


I first did it during the morning rush after I had surgery and didn't want to go up and down the stairs at Grand Central. Headed for E.23d St and a connection to the M23.

The thing with the 6 during rush hour is, with the platform crowding at Grand Central, the mob getting off, the mob getting on, it can easily take 10-12 minutes from the time you start down the stairs to the platform before you're on the move. Then the next two stations (33rd and 28th) are busy at that hour also. They're not quick stops.

Meanwhile, you walk down Park Avenue to E.40th St and find there are a lot more M1 buses than No.6 trains. Frequently the wait is only a minute or two. The M1 then makes the swing onto Park and actually moves pretty good until around 34th. I've had to stand until 34th St, but it's nothing like the 6. Once past 34th St it's pretty much clear sailing for the M1 -- even at 8:15 AM on a weekday believe it or not -- until you get to 23d St. Which is where I'm getting off. The total trip time is about the same, 15 minutes. Sometimes the M1 is faster.

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#498335 - 05/21/10 01:08 AM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: tommy meehan]
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At 33rd and 28th, the mob that just got off the previous train is still leaving the station when the next one pulls in. It is like that for 45 mins or so. Early in the AM rush, the Manhattan streets are not that packed, especially south of Midtown (everybody on the train going to work). Its once 9am hits and now all the tourists, shoppers and delivery trucks are added to the mix along with the workers that it becomes absolutely crazy both above and below ground and it remains that way all day.


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#498338 - 05/21/10 11:41 AM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: TwoTimer]
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For a number of years I took Metro-North from Yonkers to the 6 at Grand Central to get to E.23d St. I would arrive a couple minutes after 8 o'clock, like 8:02 or 8:03. Invariably I would just miss a downtown 6. cry I'd stand on the platform and after a minute or two there'd be an announcement. On good mornings the voice would say, "There is a downtown 6 train approaching 51st St." On bad mornings the voice would say there is a downtown 6 at 59th St. eek

I used to ask myself, if I had walked over to 40th and Park, wouldn't I be well on my way to 23d St by now? But I was afraid of the traffic slowing the bus to walking speed. After surgery, when I was leery of the platform stairs, I was pleasantly surprised to find the bus is, at worst, only a minute or two slower. Hey I can spare a couple minutes.

On mornings when a 6 was pulling into 42d St or standing there with the doors open, yes then the train is faster, much faster. But you can't plan on that happening.

I have to add, however, from about E.17th St to E.14th, around Union Square East, the M1 is usually stuck in gridlocked traffic at all times. It's not a good alternative to get to Union Square from 42d Street. wink

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#498800 - 06/28/10 01:23 PM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: tommy meehan]
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I let a few 5 trains go past during the PM rush about a week ago. The train was packed beyond capacity.

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#498840 - 06/30/10 11:23 AM Re: Letting 4/5/6 trains go by [Re: 219]
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I've tried the M101 Limited from Grand Central as an alternative and it's a pretty good 1, but only if it's coming. Forget about the local bus on Lex...
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