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#485616 - 06/13/09 05:53 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: R160Etrain]
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I doubt it. If it is only a test it won't be a major service disruption. However, if it becomes real, the express frequency will be anywhere between 5 and 10 minutes. The purpose of it can also be to get emptier trains back into Manhattan.

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#485634 - 06/13/09 10:23 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: R32_3348]
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If it becomes permanent in the AM, they could try a trial run in the PM rush hour with a few trains.

Bee Line riders would obviously use this, so could Woodlawn heights Bx34 riders. The few N/B <4>s could run right behind (4)s and be sure to pass them to allow transfers at Burnside.

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#485666 - 06/14/09 10:20 AM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: TheGreatOne2k7]
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If it is used in the pm rush as well it would be crowded up to Burnside Av, riders north of burnside would be happy not to deal with the yankee crowds.

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#485694 - 06/14/09 01:57 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: R160Etrain]
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At least the lexington avenue isnt like the subways in tokyo, right?

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#485696 - 06/14/09 02:03 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: R160Etrain]
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#485731 - 06/14/09 08:11 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: R160Etrain]
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Originally Posted By: R160Etrain
At least the lexington avenue isnt like the subways in tokyo, right?


You're right about that-the subway in Tokyo is 10x better.
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#485736 - 06/14/09 08:26 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: Forest Glen]
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So you don't mind employees on the platform shoving you in to fit in the train car then?
Or how about if the NYC subways shuts down after midnight? I'm sure then the stations can be cleaned up and the bums kicked out of the system. Don't worry about having to take the taxi home if you are out after midnight.


Edited by Grand Concourse (06/14/09 08:28 PM)

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#485771 - 06/15/09 06:25 AM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: Grand Concourse]
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What if the MTA did implemented that, just have workers shoving people into the train since the crowding on the 4/5/6 is that bad.

Or they can run trains that have no seats so they can fit in as any people as possible or "lock" the seats till 10 am like they do in Japan, then during the pm rush lock them again till the rush is over.

But Im probably asking too much due to the current financial situation the MTA is in.


Edited by R160Etrain (06/15/09 06:29 AM)

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#485775 - 06/15/09 08:25 AM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: Forest Glen]
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Originally Posted By: Lex Express
Originally Posted By: R160Etrain
At least the lexington avenue isnt like the subways in tokyo, right?


You're right about that-the subway in Tokyo is 10x better.


I agree, the subways in tokyo are much better. The extremely high ridership in tokyo (which is almost twice the amount of the ridership of the MTA subway) results in very frequent service. Over here, if isnt crush loaded then it will mostly get mediocre service or if it still gets crowded it still gets mediocre service anyway. For example: the C/N/R/W/G/V/2 Plus the trains used in Tokyo are pretty lengthly, probably longer than the ones in NYC. And I doubt they get the weekend G.O.s that we do. Also what I have heard is that when it comes to crowding the japanese disciplined and are more civilized than the animals and jerks in our subways. And it's much cleaner than what we got.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQPGj-hWE9k&feature=related


And plus it's going to be hard to break dance and beg on a crush loaded train. Plus other than rush hours like the lexington avenue line the subways are calm. So in comparison the tokyo subway is better, even though when compared to the crowding on the Tokyo subway we shouldnt really be complaining.


Edited by R160Etrain (06/15/09 08:33 AM)

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#485776 - 06/15/09 09:04 AM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: R160Etrain]
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Edited by R160Etrain (06/15/09 09:09 AM)

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#485780 - 06/15/09 10:56 AM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: R160Etrain]
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NYC runs fixed sets in either a full train or half the train length. Does Tokyo change the amount of cars to fit ridership time periods?
And since you both love Tokyo so much, would you want NYC to shut the system down after 12-1am and not open it again till like 5-6am?

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#485787 - 06/15/09 12:51 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: Grand Concourse]
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Well they probably dont want to run empty trains from 1am-5am so it proablby does make sense for them to close during late nights.


Edited by R160Etrain (06/15/09 12:55 PM)

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#485881 - 06/16/09 01:36 AM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: R160Etrain]
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Can't the MTA provide OWL bus service at nights (or in general, PLEASE make the buses run on time)? If only to get rid of those nasty weekend changes.
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#485936 - 06/16/09 08:48 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: EQ_Express]
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If closing down the subway late nights means no G.O.'s during weekends, then I would be all for it.

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#485938 - 06/16/09 09:15 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: R160Etrain]
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Too many people use the subway late nights for the subway to be closed.

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#485939 - 06/16/09 09:50 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: Jamal BK3]
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Originally Posted By: Jamal BK3
Too many people use the subway late nights for the subway to be closed.

According to video I learned from NY1, late night plan was elimated due to subway is not mean for to close at late night.
Not all subway stations have gate.


Edited by FamousNYLover (06/16/09 09:50 PM)
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#485945 - 06/16/09 11:04 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: FamousNYLover]
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Not that many people use the G train at night. I proposed shutting down the system on Sunday night as a compromise. If it meant that this system was more sanitary then it would be worth it.
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#486169 - 06/18/09 05:51 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: Forest Glen]
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So which bronx express you think is the fastest, the <4>,<5>,<6>?

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#486186 - 06/18/09 09:19 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: R160Etrain]
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The <6> has always been faster than the (5) Bronx express.

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#486207 - 06/18/09 11:00 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: 219]
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The new (4) Bronx Express starts off slow because it switches tracks before the Bedford Park Boulevard station. It speeds up and slows down when going through a station

The MTA are trying to get emptier trains into Manhattan, as stated before.

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#486215 - 06/18/09 11:18 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: Allerton_Avenue]
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Welcome aboard Allerton Avenue. I'm glad you like the new service.
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#486219 - 06/18/09 11:31 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: Forest Glen]
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Thanks dude (Lex Express)

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#486237 - 06/19/09 08:02 AM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: Allerton_Avenue]
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So then the <4> should be the fastest since after Bedford Park Blvd it practically runs straight down without any curves.

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#486249 - 06/19/09 11:59 AM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: R160Etrain]
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It slows down when going through a station, but it isn't as fast as the <6>, but not as slow as the 5 Bronx Express.

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#486277 - 06/19/09 06:47 PM Re: 4 peak express service in the Bronx [Re: Allerton_Avenue]
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Too bad many of the expresses in NYC have to be slowed down for trivial reasons imo (Central Park West is probably the most egregious example).
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