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#471562 - 02/21/09 10:33 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: R445377]
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The R142S are just extra R142A trains, they are basically the same train. The 4 is basically about half R142 and R142A.
I don't think all the cars are being converted and I think the R188's are seprate cars rather than conversion of cars. Yeah they will need to make the R142A's compatable with the R188's, but I don't think there's much they need to do though since these cars should be nothing more than 'trailer cars' or pulled by the lead and end cars.

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#471607 - 02/22/09 12:46 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: Grand Concourse]
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The R188 is a conversion kit (as it says in the contract IINM) for the R142A. There will be separate R188 cars but those will be the 11th car in 7 trains.

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#471624 - 02/22/09 01:35 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: R32_3348]
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Oh, ok. But they are still R142A's just given, what the CBCT thing?

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#471627 - 02/22/09 01:40 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: Grand Concourse]
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Originally Posted By: Grand Concourse
I would say mostly, and if the 6 runs R62A's again, they would probably make the 4 all R142/a. So the 4 can probably give up the remaining R62's to the 3 to displace the R62A's on to the 6 or just give all the remaining R62's to the 6.

The 3 is going to keep its R62As. What other mainline IRT cars are still in singles that can run on the shuttle?

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#471632 - 02/22/09 01:54 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: Jamal BK3]
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Well tracks 1 and 3, which is a total of 7 cars, can only be accessed from the Lexington line. I would think that would be reason enough for the 6 to take all the singles. Plus they could always bring the other 3 cars via the South Ferry loop and bring it up the West side since track 4 is directly connected to the uptown local track. Or they could keep 1 set on the 3 just for the shuttle since the 6 won't be running all R62A's at once.

Plus if they ever get around to rennovate the TS side of the shuttle to allow 5-car trains to terminate at TS, I would think track 4 would be rendered obsolete.


Edited by Grand Concourse (02/22/09 01:58 PM)

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#471634 - 02/22/09 02:08 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: Grand Concourse]
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The shuttle's cars have been coming out of the Livonia Yard for about 20 years now. If the TA had an issue with how to access the shuttle from Brooklyn, they would've had its cars coming from some yard in the Bronx instead for some time now.


Edited by Jamal BK3 (02/22/09 02:12 PM)

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#471646 - 02/22/09 03:55 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: Jamal BK3]
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So the MTA is going to stael the R142A cars from the (6) or (4) and give them to the (7) and give the R62A to (4) (6). Typical
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#471797 - 02/24/09 03:32 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: via101Av]
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What about the strip maps? Are they going to replace them?


Edited by MotionBoy (02/24/09 03:32 PM)
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#471798 - 02/24/09 03:35 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: MotionBoy]
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Well obviously, if the trains were moved they will have to get strip maps for the line. It wouldn't make sense for maps for the 6 train if it is on the 7.

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#471915 - 02/25/09 03:58 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: Grand Concourse]
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Would the R188 have FIND?
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#471919 - 02/25/09 04:19 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: NX Sea Beach Express]
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Dunno, maybe.

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#471931 - 02/25/09 05:39 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: NX Sea Beach Express]
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Originally Posted By: NX Sea Beach Express
Would the R188 have FIND?
If an R188 is really just an R142 with CBTC added, then I wouldn't think so. Probably just the strip maps.
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#472099 - 02/26/09 08:46 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: El_Station]
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Will the R188 be like the R142A with R160 features?

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#472124 - 02/26/09 10:00 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: GG65]
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It might
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#472341 - 02/28/09 07:12 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: via101Av]
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It will have the FIND.

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#472508 - 03/01/09 01:33 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: R32_3348]
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Originally Posted By: R32_3348
It will have the FIND.
Really?!? Is this confirmed? What source?
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#472637 - 03/01/09 04:44 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: El_Station]
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FIND,like on the R160. I cannot wait for the R188
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#473171 - 03/05/09 07:02 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: 5_Bklyn_College]
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Me too, I just want some R62 back on the (6) line,because it is better

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#473376 - 03/06/09 07:22 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: GG65]
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I used to love the R62 on the 6 long ago.


Edited by 219 (03/06/09 07:22 PM)

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#481196 - 05/07/09 01:25 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: 219]
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I hope not I want my 6 train to keep R-142

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#481202 - 05/07/09 01:39 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: Dre]
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it does not really matter but put it sumwhere.
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#481511 - 05/09/09 07:51 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: Q89LCL]
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I still like the R-142 over the R-62a on the like 6 train

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#481521 - 05/09/09 09:39 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: Dre]
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The 6 runs the R142A's. The 2 and 5 runs the R142's.

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#481543 - 05/10/09 01:31 AM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: Grand Concourse]
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It really dosn't matter if the 6 becomes R62 again because if a few more years all the I.R.T lines will be NTT.

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#481683 - 05/11/09 03:34 PM Re: R188 confirmed [Re: 219]
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Sorry I meant R-142a on the 6 train

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