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#93555 - 02/20/05 01:54 AM Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
(5) Bronx Express (5) Bronx Express TWU President Registered: 04/02/04 Posts: 3416 Loc: Egg Harbor New Jersey Transit ...	Does it help? Why would it be there if you can take the 7? _________________________ [IMG]http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/4797/319displayog4.gif[/IMG]
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#93556 - 02/20/05 02:55 AM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
G1Ravage G1Ravage NYC Council Transportation Committee Chairperson Registered: 08/09/04 Posts: 2107 Loc: Queens, New York, USA	It's there because the tracks were always there. And it's an important link between subway riders on the East and West Sides, and has VERY heavy ridership for a mere shuttle. You think the (7) can handle that load all on its own? And who wants to stop at Fifth Avenue, anyway? Consider it the 42 Street Express. ^^ _________________________ "This is a (6) train that doesn't know where it's going. The next. Stop is The Next Stop."
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#93557 - 02/20/05 08:52 AM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Brighton Line Brighton Line Federal Transit Administration Rep. Registered: 02/16/01 Posts: 5517 Loc: Brooklyn,NY, US	It is needed for the rush hour and the tourists. You have to go pretty deep for the 7 just to travel cross town. Rush hour the shuttle is packed, the 7 could not handle the crowds. Your idea takes effect late night when they shut down the shuttle. _________________________ Brighton Line Still can't find the "Any Key" on my keyboard. I can't continue.
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#93558 - 02/20/05 02:27 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Bronx Thru Express Bronx Thru Express Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 11/17/00 Posts: 1327 Loc: Bronx NY, USA	there should be a shuttle on 125th, since there's no other train that could take you crosstown. at least on 14th street you can take the L, so you dont really need a shuttle _________________________ This is 3rd Avenue, 149th Street. Transfer is available to the 2 train. This is a Nereid Avenue bound 5 express train. The next stop is East 180th Street.
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#93559 - 02/20/05 02:39 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Adtranz Propwnsion Adtranz Propwnsion Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 09/25/04 Posts: 1311	This thread brings back some bad memories... :rolleyes: _________________________ I'm obsessed with iPods and I'm proud of it! http://www.redskins.com http://www.nba.com/wizards
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#93560 - 02/20/05 02:52 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Bronx Thru Express Bronx Thru Express Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 11/17/00 Posts: 1327 Loc: Bronx NY, USA	what memories? _________________________ This is 3rd Avenue, 149th Street. Transfer is available to the 2 train. This is a Nereid Avenue bound 5 express train. The next stop is East 180th Street.
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#93561 - 02/20/05 03:24 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
33rd Street 33rd Street TWU President Registered: 12/25/03 Posts: 3727 Loc: None	The Shuttle does help out espectally when transfering from the West Side to the East Side or vice-versa. The 7 line does one thing which the Shuttle can't do. That is being allowed to transfer to the IND 6th Avenue Line.
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#93562 - 02/20/05 04:31 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Lex Express Lex Express Lord of the Post Registered: 06/27/02 Posts: 17080 Loc: Springfield Gardens, Queens	I'm not pointing out anyone in particular but I wish people would stop basing ideas on what the map indicates and base them on actual ridership numbers. _________________________ "This stop is Silver Spring. Red Line to Glenmont. Next stop is Forest Glen".
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#93563 - 02/20/05 04:33 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Adtranz Propwnsion Adtranz Propwnsion Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 09/25/04 Posts: 1311	Quote: Originally posted by Bronx Thru Express: what memories? My first day on this board. I started a thread about this and it turned into a flame fest. No hard feelings Grand Concourse, I hope! :p _________________________ I'm obsessed with iPods and I'm proud of it! http://www.redskins.com http://www.nba.com/wizards
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#93564 - 02/20/05 05:08 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
(5) Bronx Express (5) Bronx Express TWU President Registered: 04/02/04 Posts: 3416 Loc: Egg Harbor New Jersey Transit ...	I didn't know the TSQ-GC Shuttle had that much ridership. I've only been on like 5 times, and there wasn't that much people on it. _________________________ [IMG]http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/4797/319displayog4.gif[/IMG]
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#93565 - 02/20/05 05:18 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Bronx Thru Express Bronx Thru Express Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 11/17/00 Posts: 1327 Loc: Bronx NY, USA	Quote: Originally posted by H & M: I'm not pointing out anyone in particular but I wish people would stop basing ideas on what the map indicates and base them on actual ridership numbers. if you mean my idea about 125th, it wasnt based on the map, just i wish it was there for personal use. and im guessing that mentioning 14th street is justified b/c all 3 stations on 14th are in the top 29 on the ridership list _________________________ This is 3rd Avenue, 149th Street. Transfer is available to the 2 train. This is a Nereid Avenue bound 5 express train. The next stop is East 180th Street.
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#93566 - 02/20/05 05:24 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Bronx Thru Express Bronx Thru Express Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 11/17/00 Posts: 1327 Loc: Bronx NY, USA	oh and by the way, on the ridership list, what does this mean?: "16. 74 St/Roosevelt Ave (7,E,F,G,R,V) 13,485,468 [25% of ridership]" its the part in the brackets that i dont get _________________________ This is 3rd Avenue, 149th Street. Transfer is available to the 2 train. This is a Nereid Avenue bound 5 express train. The next stop is East 180th Street.
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#93567 - 02/20/05 06:21 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Allan Allan TWU President Registered: 10/05/00 Posts: 3213 Loc: N.E. Bronx, NY	Quote: Originally posted by (5) Brooklyn Express: I didn't know the TSQ-GC Shuttle had that much ridership. I've only been on like 5 times, and there wasn't that much people on it. During the rush hours (AM and PM) the shuttle is extremely crowded - all 3 trains. _________________________ "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others" - Groucho
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#93568 - 02/20/05 08:55 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Grand Concourse Grand Concourse Lord of the Post Registered: 06/26/02 Posts: 18258 Loc: Manhattan	Quote: Originally posted by iPod Addict #1: No hard feelings Grand Concourse, I hope! :p Oh yeah, none taken, you've come a long way from that day $;\)$ = Quote: Originally posted by Allan: During the rush hours (AM and PM) the shuttle is extremely crowded - all 3 trains. Yes, and like everyone said it is just a few feet below ground compared to the 7 being far below and during the rush hours for a quick connection and a 'speedy' travel I'm sure most would take the 42nd S over the 7. And being 2 stops there is no risk of train delays due to unknown variables like the 7 and its line from Flushing to GCT.
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#93569 - 02/20/05 09:01 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
The Yankee The Yankee NYC Council Transportation Committee Chairperson Registered: 08/03/04 Posts: 2356 Loc: Brooklyn	Quote: Originally posted by Bronx Thru Express: oh and by the way, on the ridership list, what does this mean?: "16. 74 St/Roosevelt Ave (7,E,F,G,R,V) 13,485,468 [25% of ridership]" its the part in the brackets that i dont get It seems to me that it means that 25% of all ridership (at least, those using Metrocards there) use this station and all the ones above it. So, the top 16 stations handle 25% of Metrocard entries. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. _________________________ Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that someone's not out to get you. "Let's Trim Our Hair According to Socialist Lifestyle" - Decree set by Lil' Kim in Pyongyang.
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#93570 - 02/20/05 09:49 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
sblackman07 sblackman07 Straphanger Registered: 01/01/05 Posts: 159 Loc: Andover, MA/Pleasantville, NY	Quote: Originally posted by (5) Brooklyn Express: I didn't know the TSQ-GC Shuttle had that much ridership. I've only been on like 5 times, and there wasn't that much people on it. It probobly doesnt seem like that much, but the trains are really frequent. _________________________ "A fanatic is one who won't change his mind and can't change the subject" - Winston Churchill
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#93571 - 02/20/05 11:59 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
R62A 2012 R62A 2012 Lord of the Post Registered: 11/06/02 Posts: 11121 Loc: NJ	S shuttle service runs every 2-3 minutes peak and can be really packed. On weekends many tourists use it. _________________________ The R36 Celebrating 40 years on land and at sea 1964-2004
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#93572 - 02/21/05 04:05 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
J-Perfect J-Perfect "The Mole" Boring Machine Operator Registered: 03/06/04 Posts: 776 Loc: New York City	The (7) is packed as it is already. Besides, the (7) has an extra stop in between.
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#93573 - 02/21/05 05:06 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
33rd Street 33rd Street TWU President Registered: 12/25/03 Posts: 3727 Loc: None	The only time when I see the Shuttle empty is during mid-day hours and on weekends.
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#93574 - 02/21/05 05:10 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
(5) Bronx Express (5) Bronx Express TWU President Registered: 04/02/04 Posts: 3416 Loc: Egg Harbor New Jersey Transit ...	Quote: Originally posted by Allan: Quote: Originally posted by (5) Brooklyn Express: I didn't know the TSQ-GC Shuttle had that much ridership. I've only been on like 5 times, and there wasn't that much people on it. During the rush hours (AM and PM) the shuttle is extremely crowded - all 3 trains. I never knew the 3rd train was in use. When I rode the Shuttle it was only 2 trains running. _________________________ [IMG]http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/4797/319displayog4.gif[/IMG]
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#93575 - 02/21/05 05:34 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Grand Concourse Grand Concourse Lord of the Post Registered: 06/26/02 Posts: 18258 Loc: Manhattan	They do:
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#93576 - 02/21/05 05:47 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
(5) Bronx Express (5) Bronx Express TWU President Registered: 04/02/04 Posts: 3416 Loc: Egg Harbor New Jersey Transit ...	Thats the first time I seen that. _________________________ [IMG]http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/4797/319displayog4.gif[/IMG]
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#93577 - 02/21/05 05:53 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
33rd Street 33rd Street TWU President Registered: 12/25/03 Posts: 3727 Loc: None	Quote: Originally posted by (5) Brooklyn Express: Thats the first time I seen that. If you wanna ride on Track 4, you'll have to do it during Rush Hours.
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#93578 - 02/21/05 06:01 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Grand Concourse Grand Concourse Lord of the Post Registered: 06/26/02 Posts: 18258 Loc: Manhattan	Well it has it's own enterance since it is isolated from the other lines only the 'bridge' connects to the other lines thus making transfers inconvenient. And why 1 and 3 are used often. I think I took that shot around 4pm the start of the rush hour mode.
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#93579 - 02/22/05 03:49 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
B13 SPRING CRK GATEWAY MALL B13 SPRING CRK GATEWAY MALL Lord of the Post Registered: 01/15/03 Posts: 12528 Loc: Somewhere within the 64 turns ...	The M42 is useless...sits in the Times Square area sometimes for 10-15 minutes, the traffic above ground is just as ridiculous, so the shuttle is pretty useful...although at night, if you know the M42 schedule, its better than using the 7 :p
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#93580 - 02/22/05 05:01 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Grand Concourse Grand Concourse Lord of the Post Registered: 06/26/02 Posts: 18258 Loc: Manhattan	Unless the person needed to get to 12th Av or 1st Av. That's what the M42 is really good for
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#93581 - 05/02/06 03:03 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
FamousNYLover FamousNYLover MTA Board Member Registered: 01/12/05 Posts: 6733 Loc: Staying until St. Patty's in O...	7 train is easy access from 4/5/6 platform and A/C/E platform, right? Last time, I followed sign and 7 platform was underneath these platforms. _________________________ Yuki Endo, celebrity in NY has return to Big Apple.
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#93582 - 05/02/06 04:15 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Allan Allan TWU President Registered: 10/05/00 Posts: 3213 Loc: N.E. Bronx, NY	Quote: Originally posted by 002213: 7 train is easy access from 4/5/6 platform and A/C/E platform, right? Last time, I followed sign and 7 platform was underneath these platforms. Yes. _________________________ "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others" - Groucho
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#93583 - 05/03/06 09:35 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
R62A 2012 R62A 2012 Lord of the Post Registered: 11/06/02 Posts: 11121 Loc: NJ	At 42 St/Port Authority (A/C/E), just follow the long corridor between the IND and IRT/BMT at 41 St. The 7 is about midway through. From the 4/5/6, the stairs down to the 7 are on the Grand Central platform. _________________________ The R36 Celebrating 40 years on land and at sea 1964-2004
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#93584 - 05/11/06 01:30 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Chemmy Chemmy Lord of the Post Registered: 02/21/02 Posts: 13579 Loc: Howard Beach NY	Quote: Originally posted by 33rd Street: The only time when I see the Shuttle empty is during mid-day hours and on weekends. I've never even seen it empty then. It's always been crowded any time I take it.
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#93585 - 05/12/06 04:58 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Lex Express Lex Express Lord of the Post Registered: 06/27/02 Posts: 17080 Loc: Springfield Gardens, Queens	Middays it's empty. Weekends, nope. _________________________ "This stop is Silver Spring. Red Line to Glenmont. Next stop is Forest Glen".
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#93586 - 05/12/06 09:24 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Princelex Princelex Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 07/06/04 Posts: 1178 Loc: Co-Op City, Bronx NY	Quote: Originally posted by Chemmy: Quote: Originally posted by 33rd Street: The only time when I see the Shuttle empty is during mid-day hours and on weekends. I've never even seen it empty then. It's always been crowded any time I take it. Same with me. It's always crowded. It's a fast, quick ride, that's why it's so crowded. _________________________ May U Live 2 see the Dawn - Prince
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#93587 - 05/16/06 01:37 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
B13 SPRING CRK GATEWAY MALL B13 SPRING CRK GATEWAY MALL Lord of the Post Registered: 01/15/03 Posts: 12528 Loc: Somewhere within the 64 turns ...	If the shuttle ran all night, I think it woudl carry a decent crowd as well
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#93588 - 05/16/06 02:44 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Allan Allan TWU President Registered: 10/05/00 Posts: 3213 Loc: N.E. Bronx, NY	Quote: Originally posted by B13 SPRING CRK GATEWAY MALL: If the shuttle ran all night, I think it woudl carry a decent crowd as well Actually it didn't. That is one of the things that prompted the MTA to shut it down overnight and have people use the 7. _________________________ "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others" - Groucho
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#93589 - 05/18/06 06:33 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
FamousNYLover FamousNYLover MTA Board Member Registered: 01/12/05 Posts: 6733 Loc: Staying until St. Patty's in O...	42nd St Shuttle at Times Square station has direct access from Broadway/7th Av-43rd St SW MetroCard entrance, opposite of Police Station, so people could just get on and catch shuttle train to GCT. At Grand Central-42nd St, Madison Av/42nd St SW and NW entrances, well as 317 Madison Av entrance are right over 42nd St Shuttle Platform on west end, including Park Av/42nd St entrance on southbound 42nd St, right? _________________________ Yuki Endo, celebrity in NY has return to Big Apple.
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#93590 - 05/22/06 01:11 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Allan Allan TWU President Registered: 10/05/00 Posts: 3213 Loc: N.E. Bronx, NY	Quote: Originally posted by 002213: 42nd St Shuttle at Times Square station has direct access from Broadway/7th Av-43rd St SW MetroCard entrance, opposite of Police Station, so people could just get on and catch shuttle train to GCT. At Grand Central-42nd St, Madison Av/42nd St SW and NW entrances, well as 317 Madison Av entrance are right over 42nd St Shuttle Platform on west end, including Park Av/42nd St entrance on southbound 42nd St, right? BTW - I just thought I would mention that the entrance at Broadway/7th Av & 43rd St dates back to 1904. _________________________ "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others" - Groucho
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#93591 - 05/23/06 12:18 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Chemmy Chemmy Lord of the Post Registered: 02/21/02 Posts: 13579 Loc: Howard Beach NY	It's original to the system in 1904?
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#93592 - 05/23/06 12:22 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Chemmy Chemmy Lord of the Post Registered: 02/21/02 Posts: 13579 Loc: Howard Beach NY	Quote: Originally posted by Princelex: Quote: Originally posted by Chemmy: Quote: Originally posted by 33rd Street: The only time when I see the Shuttle empty is during mid-day hours and on weekends. I've never even seen it empty then. It's always been crowded any time I take it. Same with me. It's always crowded. It's a fast, quick ride, that's why it's so crowded. Its so much better than dealing with the 7
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#93593 - 05/23/06 01:56 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Allan Allan TWU President Registered: 10/05/00 Posts: 3213 Loc: N.E. Bronx, NY	Quote: Originally posted by Chemmy: It's original to the system in 1904? Yes, that is one of the original entrances to the uptown local platform (now track 4 of the shuttle). One of the original entrances to the downtown local platform (track 1 of the shuttle) is next to the Gap store on the southeast corner of 42nd and Broadway. _________________________ "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others" - Groucho
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#93594 - 05/23/06 02:01 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Interborough Interborough Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 12/17/00 Posts: 1315 Loc: In the Train Operators cab of ...	Interesting note about that station is that the shuttle paltform is the last renovation that is to take place at that staion. _________________________ Ladies and Gentleman, in order to provide all our customers with the best train service, we are waiting for connecting passengers on an arriving train.
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#93595 - 05/23/06 04:25 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Grand Concourse Grand Concourse Lord of the Post Registered: 06/26/02 Posts: 18258 Loc: Manhattan	Due to possible plans of having strait platforms rather than curved [as it is now]. However, it is also possible it means moving back the station a bit east from the current one.
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#93596 - 05/24/06 12:53 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Chemmy Chemmy Lord of the Post Registered: 02/21/02 Posts: 13579 Loc: Howard Beach NY	WIll this mean closing the shuttle down as renovations progress?
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#93597 - 05/24/06 01:37 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Allan Allan TWU President Registered: 10/05/00 Posts: 3213 Loc: N.E. Bronx, NY	Probably a partial closing during the week with a complete closing on the weekends. If they were to close it completely during rush hours the 7 would be hard pressed to handle all the extra passengers (just getting down to the station at GC could take a lot of time). _________________________ "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others" - Groucho
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#93598 - 05/24/06 02:14 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Chemmy Chemmy Lord of the Post Registered: 02/21/02 Posts: 13579 Loc: Howard Beach NY	The 7 would become even more nightmarish than usual as you can well imagine.
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#93599 - 05/25/06 05:43 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Lex Express Lex Express Lord of the Post Registered: 06/27/02 Posts: 17080 Loc: Springfield Gardens, Queens	Some things are better left alone. There's nothing wrong with the shuttle. _________________________ "This stop is Silver Spring. Red Line to Glenmont. Next stop is Forest Glen".
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#93600 - 05/27/06 03:53 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Chemmy Chemmy Lord of the Post Registered: 02/21/02 Posts: 13579 Loc: Howard Beach NY	IAWTP
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#93601 - 10/01/06 12:22 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Q101viaStienway Q101viaStienway Bus Driver Registered: 08/17/06 Posts: 396 Loc: Astoria	Quote: Originally posted by Chemmy: IAWTP what does that mean _________________________ There is nothing but New York!
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#93602 - 10/01/06 09:00 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Lex Express Lex Express Lord of the Post Registered: 06/27/02 Posts: 17080 Loc: Springfield Gardens, Queens	I agree with that post. _________________________ "This stop is Silver Spring. Red Line to Glenmont. Next stop is Forest Glen".
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#93603 - 10/03/06 08:37 AM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
R38 4010 R38 4010 Bus Driver Registered: 07/04/06 Posts: 393	There's tracks 1,3,and 4, but what about some sort of missing track 2? _________________________ This is a C local to Euclid Avenue, stand clear of the doors. Formelry known as R68 2818.
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#93604 - 10/03/06 04:39 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Allan Allan TWU President Registered: 10/05/00 Posts: 3213 Loc: N.E. Bronx, NY	Quote: Originally posted by R68 2818: There's tracks 1,3,and 4, but what about some sort of missing track 2? Track 2 was removed and the trackbed covered over to create the platform for track 3 at Times Square. At Grand Central the extra wide platform covers track 2. If you look out the window as the train travels between TS and GC you will see the roadbed (w/o the track). The Times Square station was originally built as a local station for the first IRT route. _________________________ "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others" - Groucho
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#93605 - 10/04/06 01:24 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
Brighton Line Brighton Line Federal Transit Administration Rep. Registered: 02/16/01 Posts: 5517 Loc: Brooklyn,NY, US	I suggest reading this excellent post in this very Forum. _________________________ Brighton Line Still can't find the "Any Key" on my keyboard. I can't continue.
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#93606 - 10/05/06 12:10 AM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle
G1Ravage G1Ravage NYC Council Transportation Committee Chairperson Registered: 08/09/04 Posts: 2107 Loc: Queens, New York, USA	Quote: Originally posted by Brighton Line: I suggest reading this excellent post in this very Forum. Another excellent read on this topic: http://www.nycsubway.org/articles/sa-jul1918.html Where the original IRT's Tracks 2, 3, and 4 were, today exists a hot, humid employee passage containing various storage rooms, plumbing rooms, signal rooms, and, near the original junction of both uptown local tracks, stands Grand Central Master Tower today, which controls the entire Lexington Avenue Line from Bowling Green to 125 Street. There's also a lunch room and bathrooms for the platform controllers. This corridor curves parallel to today's Track 1S, which was the original downtown local track. _________________________ "This is a (6) train that doesn't know where it's going. The next. Stop is The Next Stop."
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#395787 - 12/28/07 07:48 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle [Re: (5) Bronx Express]
EE Broadway Local EE Broadway Local Federal Transit Administration Rep. Registered: 11/28/06 Posts: 5156 Loc: Ariz. by way of N.J. & N.Y.	Originally Posted By: (5) Bronx Express Does it help? Why would it be there if you can take the 7? The 42d Street Shuttle, part of the original I.R.T. route, helps the (7)<7> between two important Manhattan stations and connects the West and East Sides I.R.T.. _________________________ E.......is for Elizabeth!
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#400709 - 01/16/08 03:00 PM Re: Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle [Re: Allan]
Chemmy Chemmy