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#428371 - 06/27/08 02:16 PM Ugly Incident on Q85
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An altercation on the Q85 bus spilled out to Bedell Street. A group of surly teenage girls provoked a man until he brought out a knife from his back yard and stabbed one of the assailants to death.

I've ridden the Q85 many times. There's always some drama. People regularly cut the line at Jamaica Center. High school kids scream and fight. However, it has never reached this level. I want to call the man a murderer, but it appears that he was attacked. Still, he didn't have to go this far.
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#428372 - 06/27/08 02:29 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: Lex Express]
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 Originally Posted By: Lex Express
An altercation on the Q85 bus spilled out to Bedell Street. A group of surly teenage girls provoked a man until he brought out a knife from his back yard and stabbed one of the assailants to death.

I've ridden the Q85 many times. There's always some drama. People regularly cut the line at Jamaica Center. High school kids scream and fight. However, it has never reached this level. I want to call the man a murderer, but it appears that he was attacked. Still, he didn't have to go this far.


I knew this would happen on one of these busy bus routes like the Q85, Q5, Bx28, or Bx6.
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#428379 - 06/27/08 03:35 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: cotb16]
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#428389 - 06/27/08 05:39 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: FamousNYLover]
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I have taken the Q85 for years and trust me I do agree with Lex but sometimes people mess with you so bad that you have to take matters into your hands but the dude should have defended himself instead of stabbing someone.
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#428394 - 06/27/08 05:48 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: Lex Express]
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 Originally Posted By: Lex Express
An altercation on the Q85 bus spilled out to Bedell Street. A group of surly teenage girls provoked a man until he brought out a knife from his back yard and stabbed one of the assailants to death.

I've ridden the Q85 many times. There's always some drama. People regularly cut the line at Jamaica Center. High school kids scream and fight. However, it has never reached this level. I want to call the man a murderer, but it appears that he was attacked. Still, he didn't have to go this far.

n what was the bus driver doing all this time???
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#428408 - 06/27/08 08:06 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: APPLE2APPLE]
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I thought the bus didn't arrive until then. According to NY1 (not the article, the TV), the girl was walking her friend to the bus stop where people were fighting, and the man stabbed her in the chest.
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#428415 - 06/27/08 09:02 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: Lex Express]
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 Originally Posted By: Lex Express
An altercation on the Q85 bus spilled out to Bedell Street. A group of surly teenage girls provoked a man until he brought out a knife from his back yard and stabbed one of the assailants to death.

I've ridden the Q85 many times. There's always some drama. People regularly cut the line at Jamaica Center. High school kids scream and fight. However, it has never reached this level. I want to call the man a murderer, but it appears that he was attacked. Still, he didn't have to go this far.


you gotta be kidding me... small world we live in, I swear...


back on tuesday, I went to green acres... took the x63, then walked.... of course, being the mall that it is, I didn't find what I was lookin for... so I headed for home...

I'd just missed a bus (couldn't tell what bus it was, as it turned onto sunrise), so I waited for the next bus... after 15 mins later (smh), a Q5 & a Q85 pull up... it had to be after 8pm...

fast forward... two heavy set broads get on @ farmers.... I was the only young dude (young meaning, younger than 40 in this case... lol) on the bus... immediately they start tryna holla @ me (one of the broads didn't pay the fare).... was in one of my moods (since I already missed a bus, and I knew I had to prepare myself for the usual BS w/ the J line), kept givin one word answers to the questions they were askin....

then one of them (the one that paid) stood up over me & started yellin like a damn lunatic... I stand up gettin ready for... anything (one of her hands were in her pants pockets)... the broad that was sitting down, stood up, and pushed my shoulders downward (tryna get me to sit back down)....

... a loud argument started thereafter, both of em kept sayin somethin about G-stack somethin, G-stack somethin (w/e the hell that is)... I said, and I quote "don't you ever in your f****n life put your filthy little f****n hands on me again, you Wish Bone lookin b****... {two ppl. laughed when I said that}... after the laughter died down, & they was like ni**a, who you threatenin.... I then said "look ho, touch me again, and you wont live to see another minute.. I guarantee that s***... there will be enough witnesses too... f***** hoodrat [****] b****es"

...and I DON'T make threats.

stared @ both those broads dead in their eyes for like a hot minute... one of them (the one that was yelling) was like, this aint worth it, but n***a best believe on my mother you goin get what's comin to you.... in my head, I was like wtf, yeah that made sense...

I shrugged my shoulders, as they kept sayin w/e after
they got off @ baisley/bedell, before the turn there...


The whole time, the b/o didn't say anything, or stop the bus... he kept driving....


Now if those 2 broads were a part of that group of girls that provoked this man in question.......
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#428416 - 06/27/08 09:07 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: B35 via Church]
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my fault for all the expletives, RD.

btw, guess lex can figure it out, since he resides in SE Queens.... but I was on the Q85...

only reason I took the 85 over the 5 (both pulled up @ the 2nd Green acres stop @ the same time) was b/c I figured it'd be a quicker ride to Jamaica ctr... well that, and the Q5 was SRO... and the Q85 barely had anyone on it....
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#428437 - 06/28/08 12:14 AM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: B35 via Church]
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The Q85 has hoodlums (especially from Springfield HS and IS 231) but I never experienced physical threats. It's mostly screaming and playfights.
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#428465 - 06/28/08 01:15 AM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: Lex Express]
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Damn. That is the only thing i can think of saying when i hear this kind of stuff. I mean people really need to calm the f*** down and act more sensible. Stop trying to cause drama and be all up in people's faces.
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#428482 - 06/28/08 08:02 AM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: guypak]
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Unfortunate, sad and tragic that this had to occur.
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#428494 - 06/28/08 11:35 AM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: B35 via Church]
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 Originally Posted By: B35 via Church
don't you ever in your f****n life put your filthy little f****n hands on me again, you Wish Bone lookin b****... {two ppl. laughed when I said that}... after the laughter died down, & they was like ni**a, who you threatenin.... I then said "look ho, touch me again, and you wont live to see another minute.. I guarantee that s***... there will be enough witnesses too... f***** hoodrat [****] b****es


Damn! You told them!
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#428594 - 06/29/08 12:15 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: R32_3348]
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 Originally Posted By: R32_3348
 Originally Posted By: B35 via Church
don't you ever in your f****n life put your filthy little f****n hands on me again, you Wish Bone lookin b****... {two ppl. laughed when I said that}... after the laughter died down, & they was like ni**a, who you threatenin.... I then said "look ho, touch me again, and you wont live to see another minute.. I guarantee that s***... there will be enough witnesses too... f***** hoodrat [****] b****es


Damn! You told them!


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#428597 - 06/29/08 12:23 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: B35 via Church]
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 Originally Posted By: B35 via Church
 Originally Posted By: Lex Express
An altercation on the Q85 bus spilled out to Bedell Street. A group of surly teenage girls provoked a man until he brought out a knife from his back yard and stabbed one of the assailants to death.

I've ridden the Q85 many times. There's always some drama. People regularly cut the line at Jamaica Center. High school kids scream and fight. However, it has never reached this level. I want to call the man a murderer, but it appears that he was attacked. Still, he didn't have to go this far.


you gotta be kidding me... small world we live in, I swear...


back on tuesday, I went to green acres... took the x63, then walked.... of course, being the mall that it is, I didn't find what I was lookin for... so I headed for home...

I'd just missed a bus (couldn't tell what bus it was, as it turned onto sunrise), so I waited for the next bus... after 15 mins later (smh), a Q5 & a Q85 pull up... it had to be after 8pm...

fast forward... two heavy set broads get on @ farmers.... I was the only young dude (young meaning, younger than 40 in this case... lol) on the bus... immediately they start tryna holla @ me (one of the broads didn't pay the fare).... was in one of my moods (since I already missed a bus, and I knew I had to prepare myself for the usual BS w/ the J line), kept givin one word answers to the questions they were askin....

then one of them (the one that paid) stood up over me & started yellin like a damn lunatic... I stand up gettin ready for... anything (one of her hands were in her pants pockets)... the broad that was sitting down, stood up, and pushed my shoulders downward (tryna get me to sit back down)....

... a loud argument started thereafter, both of em kept sayin somethin about G-stack somethin, G-stack somethin (w/e the hell that is)... I said, and I quote "don't you ever in your f****n life put your filthy little f****n hands on me again, you Wish Bone lookin b****... {two ppl. laughed when I said that}... after the laughter died down, & they was like ni**a, who you threatenin.... I then said "look ho, touch me again, and you wont live to see another minute.. I guarantee that s***... there will be enough witnesses too... f***** hoodrat [****] b****es"

...and I DON'T make threats.

stared @ both those broads dead in their eyes for like a hot minute... one of them (the one that was yelling) was like, this aint worth it, but n***a best believe on my mother you goin get what's comin to you.... in my head, I was like wtf, yeah that made sense...

I shrugged my shoulders, as they kept sayin w/e after
they got off @ baisley/bedell, before the turn there...


The whole time, the b/o didn't say anything, or stop the bus... he kept driving....


Now if those 2 broads were a part of that group of girls that provoked this man in question.......


You never know , People like to start with other people that don't do nothing, This is starting to piss me off even more because situations like this one happen all the time on other buses, the Q85 is not the only one, the Q6 is so bad that people have to take the original Q6 that goes to JFK instead of the Rockaway bivd one because of GANG activity and the Q111 and Q113 has alot of knuckle heads on there as well, in march a woman got robbed on the bus by 2 dudes!!!! There is alot of stuff I want to say on this thread but it is best to keep it to myself.
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#428686 - 06/29/08 04:21 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: cotb16]
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 Originally Posted By: cotb16
 Originally Posted By: Lex Express
An altercation on the Q85 bus spilled out to Bedell Street. A group of surly teenage girls provoked a man until he brought out a knife from his back yard and stabbed one of the assailants to death.

I've ridden the Q85 many times. There's always some drama. People regularly cut the line at Jamaica Center. High school kids scream and fight. However, it has never reached this level. I want to call the man a murderer, but it appears that he was attacked. Still, he didn't have to go this far.


I knew this would happen on one of these busy bus routes like the Q85, Q5, Bx28, or Bx6.


It's bound to happen one day on the Bx28, with both the Truman and DeWitt Clinton kids being there.
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#428692 - 06/29/08 04:37 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: R32_3838]
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 Originally Posted By: B35 via Church
.......Now if those 2 broads were a part of that group of girls that provoked this man in question.......


You never know , People like to start with other people that don't do nothing, This is starting to piss me off even more because situations like this one happen all the time on other buses, the Q85 is not the only one, the Q6 is so bad that people have to take the original Q6 that goes to JFK instead of the Rockaway bivd one because of GANG activity and the Q111 and Q113 has alot of knuckle heads on there as well, in march a woman got robbed on the bus by 2 dudes!!!! There is alot of stuff I want to say on this thread but it is best to keep it to myself.


those houses out in far rockaway... yup, crips & MS13 is at war out there... it's been like that for years... had a friend that got caught in a crossfire out there, back in 99....

anyway, go 'head & spill it... no need to hold your tongue... ppl. need to know what's good (or in this case, what's bad).... the news will only report a certain extent of it.....


....if you think what you have to say will be too controversial, I'll back you up on it.... b/c I have a feeling that I might agree w/ what you have to say, judging by that last reply of yours....
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#428764 - 06/29/08 10:35 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: B35 via Church]
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 Originally Posted By: B35 via Church
 Originally Posted By: R32_3838
 Originally Posted By: B35 via Church
.......Now if those 2 broads were a part of that group of girls that provoked this man in question.......


You never know , People like to start with other people that don't do nothing, This is starting to piss me off even more because situations like this one happen all the time on other buses, the Q85 is not the only one, the Q6 is so bad that people have to take the original Q6 that goes to JFK instead of the Rockaway bivd one because of GANG activity and the Q111 and Q113 has alot of knuckle heads on there as well, in march a woman got robbed on the bus by 2 dudes!!!! There is alot of stuff I want to say on this thread but it is best to keep it to myself.


those houses out in far rockaway... yup, crips & MS13 is at war out there... it's been like that for years... had a friend that got caught in a crossfire out there, back in 99....

anyway, go 'head & spill it... no need to hold your tongue... ppl. need to know what's good (or in this case, what's bad).... the news will only report a certain extent of it.....


....if you think what you have to say will be too controversial, I'll back you up on it.... b/c I have a feeling that I might agree w/ what you have to say, judging by that last reply of yours....

wow i didnt know queens was so dangerous,i thought bklyn was the worst
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#428870 - 06/30/08 09:30 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: sebbieprops]
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 Originally Posted By: cotb16
 Originally Posted By: Lex Express
An altercation on the Q85 bus spilled out to Bedell Street. A group of surly teenage girls provoked a man until he brought out a knife from his back yard and stabbed one of the assailants to death.

I've ridden the Q85 many times. There's always some drama. People regularly cut the line at Jamaica Center. High school kids scream and fight. However, it has never reached this level. I want to call the man a murderer, but it appears that he was attacked. Still, he didn't have to go this far.


I knew this would happen on one of these busy bus routes like the Q85, Q5, Bx28, or Bx6.


It's bound to happen one day on the Bx28, with both the Truman and DeWitt Clinton kids being there.


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#429532 - 07/04/08 01:50 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: APPLE2APPLE]
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wow i didnt know queens was so dangerous,i thought bklyn was the worst


I won't debate which borough is "the worst", but you have shady areas in any borough, ya know... being street smart, you have to know where those areas are (and not to act a fool & come sideways around strange folk)... and no, it's not always around project bldg's/housing complexes....
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#429533 - 07/04/08 01:53 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: B35 via Church]
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Brooklyn is worse, but southeast Queens isn't exactly the land of milk and honey.
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#429537 - 07/04/08 02:13 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: Lex Express]
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Wow. I've had a mental picture that Springfield Gardens and Queens Village were nice and that 225th Street was like a small town main street.....not like Rego Park or Woodhaven at all.
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#429539 - 07/04/08 02:26 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: Lex Express]
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Brooklyn is worse, but southeast Queens isn't exactly the land of milk and honey.


That queens/brooklyn rivalry died in the early 90's.


 Originally Posted By: EE Broadway Local
Wow. I've had a mental picture that Springfield Gardens and Queens Village were nice and that 225th Street was like a small town main street.....not like Rego Park or Woodhaven at all.


Same way I felt about Rosedale, before the first time I went out there a while back... the roads out there aren't in good shape at all....

in terms of appeal, both springfield gdns & QV > Rosedale.... The houses out there in those 2 areas are nice.... it's the bad name they both have....



but my question to you, EE, is... what made you compare Springfield Gardens & Queens Village, to Rego Park & Woodhaven?
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#429547 - 07/04/08 04:16 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: B35 via Church]
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B35, Those are two neighborhoods in Queens I'm most familiar with. Then come Long Island City, Jamaica, Far Rockaway, Richmond Hill, Broad Channel, South Ozone Park, Rockaway Park, Flushing, Astoria and Oakland Gardens.
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#429548 - 07/04/08 04:21 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: EE Broadway Local]
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Queens in my opinion is just as safe as Manhattan. The only shady areas include Jamaica and southeastern Queens. They're not really dangerous unless you pick fights with people or draw attention to yourself. Along with Far Rockaway, those are the neighborhoods where you use the three rules of thumb.

1. Walk as if you have a purpose
2. Don't make eye contact...ever
3. Hope no one's looking back at you
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#429551 - 07/04/08 04:32 PM Re: Ugly Incident on Q85 [Re: R32_3348]
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But I'm okay on Mott Avenue, Central Avenue, The Rockaway Freeway, The Ave., 169th Street, Merrick Boulevard, Hillside Avenue, Sutphin Boulevard and Archer Avenue - I've never had a problem.
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