#425373 - 06/07/08 10:23 PM
New Route ideas for Bee Line
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TheGreatOne2k7
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what do you think of these route ideas
#22 205 St Subway via Bainbridge Avenue to Cross County Shopping Center. This route won't be stuck under Jerome Avenue and it's traffic.
#23 238 St Subway to Getty Square via 238 St/Nereid Ave, Mclean Ave, and South Broadway (full Mclean Avenue crosstown)
#24 238 St Subway to Yonkers Raceway (possibly Cross County shopping center as well) via 238 St/Nereid Ave, Mclean Ave, and Central Park Ave. Route could also terminate inside Yonkers Raceway area near the door for customer convenience.
#44 EXPRESS Pelham Bay - White Plains via 45 route to Eastchester Square via 40/41 route to White Plains making all stops to New Rochelle, then EXPRESS stops to White Plains Trans Center
#23 could also be accomplished by extending the #5 or #6 to 238 St Subway via South Broadway, Mclean Av, and 238 St
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#425437 - 06/08/08 03:00 PM
Re: New Route ideas for Bee Line
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TheGreatOne2k7
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An alternative is to have #44 go on I-95 after New Rochelle and run up the Platinum Mile with #62, since some #62 buses can have standees (at least in the afternoon)
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#425439 - 06/08/08 03:07 PM
Re: New Route ideas for Bee Line
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TheGreatOne2k7
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The #22 can turn on Gun Hill to get to Jerome if needed, so the #20, #21, and #22 would stop at the same stop at Woodlawn. This is a test to see how Bainbridge service would work vs Jerome, since many people could take the (4) to Woodlawn, the #22 would be any extra future service increases the #20 would get, except would be more reliable (N/B) due to not being on Jerome for so long.
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#425449 - 06/08/08 05:10 PM
Re: New Route ideas for Bee Line
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B35 via Church
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An alternative is to have #44 go on I-95 after New Rochelle and run up the Platinum Mile with #62, since some #62 buses can have standees (at least in the afternoon)
well, that does tend to make more sense than your *original* "BL-44" express idea.....
I'm not too sure, but how often does the BL-62 express run anyway?
The #22 can turn on Gun Hill to get to Jerome if needed, so the #20, #21, and #22 would stop at the same stop at Woodlawn. This is a test to see how Bainbridge service would work vs Jerome, since many people could take the (4) to Woodlawn, the #22 would be any extra future service increases the #20 would get, except would be more reliable (N/B) due to not being on Jerome for so long. I figured that was your motive...
If that's the case, then send some (extra future service increased) BL-20's along Bainbridge...
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#425453 - 06/08/08 05:48 PM
Re: New Route ideas for Bee Line
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TheGreatOne2k7
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#44 could still work making only transfer stops (3 stops) along #45 route after New Rochelle, which would cut down on the travel times.
#44 stops All stops from Pelham Bay to New Rochelle Transit Center
EXPRESS (skips Iona College) 5th Avenue #45, #45Q, #61 (get off here for Iona College and walk or transfer to the #45Q) Quaker Ridge Road #45, #45Q White Plains Road #40, #41 Post Road #40, #41 (White Plains Hospital)
All stops to White Plains TransCenter (or non stop to TransCenter depends upon ridership patterns)
It depends upon how many people currently transfer between 40/41 and 45 during the rush hour...
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#425460 - 06/08/08 06:40 PM
Re: New Route ideas for Bee Line
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TheGreatOne2k7
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There are 4 #62 buses in the AM and 3 #62 buses in the PM...
If an increase were needed (since I did see a #62 with 2 standees although about 4-5 seats were left on that run) it would be an option of some more #62 service, or new #44 service (could start out with 2-3 runs in each direction 30 minute headways reverse peak direction) via I-95 which could create new travel patterns from Pelham Bay and the East Bronx.
The new #44 would be slotted in to alternate with #62 leaving White Plains Transit Center in the PM and leaving New Rochelle Transit Center in the AM (as best as possible).
The schedules could also be modified to make sure 40/41 and 45 meet more often at Eastchester Square.
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#425495 - 06/08/08 11:06 PM
Re: New Route ideas for Bee Line
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TheGreatOne2k7
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#45 has artics at times, so it must be busy enough to warrant artics and 30 minute headways on weekdays
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#425582 - 06/09/08 08:12 PM
Re: New Route ideas for Bee Line
[Re: B35 via Church]
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R-7 SEPTA Local
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Oh MTA36 i can tell you that.
The BXM4d i believe was a rush hour 'extra service' of the current BXM4c that ran to Tarrytown and the Westchester Medical Center. I assume it was cancelled due to low ridership. damn... I mean, I don't know... are you saying that old BxM4d went to the medical center... tarrytown, en route to where the (current) BxM4c ends @ (around 23rd st/5th av)... or did it terminate elsewhere in manhattan? regardless, I can see why such a route would be discontinued.....
I am sure our friend Dadbo can confirm this. I am 90% sure it ran to either Tarrytown or Westchester Medical Center as it Westchester terminal.
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#425583 - 06/09/08 08:13 PM
Re: New Route ideas for Bee Line
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B35 via Church
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didn't see your original post here:
a FULL length fordham route that connects via fordham to every train route and run up pelhma bay to pelhamdale road, up wolf or 5th (pelhma RR station) then follow the 7 route to new rochelle with a PT express to WP?
I thought about something like that; a route that went from MNRR Fordham (that general area) over to New Roc'... I'm not too sure about sending such a route to WP, though...
when I used to ride the BL-45 regularly (meaning, not for no fantrips or w/e), I've always felt this way:
the issue with the 45 is that riders feel the route and the schedule is useless to them basically saying if you miss the 45 your stranded due to the fact that on the 6 train there is only ONE BUS and that is the 45.
coming from Brooklyn, I had to ride the full length of the 6 train every morning to catch that damn bus... and to ppl. saying it has low ridership... guess again...
my gripe/point is, it should venture elsewhere into the Bronx (Ideally, Fordham rd), not that sole, isolated connection to the 6 @ PBP...
I'm almost certain that if the Bx12 & the BL-45 paralleled each other along pelham pkwy, more riders will utilize the route (the 45, I'm referring to)....
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#425684 - 06/10/08 12:01 AM
Re: New Route ideas for Bee Line
[Re: mta36]
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TheGreatOne2k7
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What could be done is to reduce the midday headway at Pelham Bay to 30 minutes instead of 60 minutes if that would make a difference in ridership.
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#425991 - 06/12/08 09:23 PM
Re: New Route ideas for Bee Line
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sebbieprops
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My proposal for improving Westchester service would be to introduce a new Westchester route that would serve as an alternative to the Metro-North New Haven Line from the Bronx to New Rochelle. With Metro-North service as inadequate as it is, especially outbound on the New Haven line, the following route would be introduced, originating at Fordham Road:
- East Fordham, Pelham Pkwy, White Plains, West 1st, (stop at Mount Vernon East MNR), East Prospect, South Columbus, East Sandford (accessing the shopping center), Wolfs, 5th, (accessing Pelham MNR), Lincoln, North (ending at New Rochelle MNR).
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#425993 - 06/12/08 09:32 PM
Re: New Route ideas for Bee Line
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R-7 SEPTA Local
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My proposal for improving Westchester service would be to introduce a new Westchester route that would serve as an alternative to the Metro-North New Haven Line from the Bronx to New Rochelle. With Metro-North service as inadequate as it is, especially outbound on the New Haven line, the following route would be introduced, originating at Fordham Road:
- East Fordham, Pelham Pkwy, White Plains, West 1st, (stop at Mount Vernon East MNR), East Prospect, South Columbus, East Sandford (accessing the shopping center), Wolfs, 5th, (accessing Pelham MNR), Lincoln, North (ending at New Rochelle MNR).
Would it not be easier just to extend the W-42(New Rochelle-Mount Vernon-Wakefield)line to Fordham?
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