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#420384 - 05/07/08 12:07 PM It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge
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After several years of rumors, it's offical. The MTA has decided that effective June 1, 2008 that New York City Transit, Long Island Bus and MTA Bus Company will offically merge into a new transit agency that will now provide bus service for NYC's 5 Boroughs, Yonkers and Long Island's Nassau County.

Here the press release from the MTA website:

MTA Moves to Streamline Bus Operations
Next Step in Institutional Transformation Agenda
Improves Bus Service By Sharing Resources


The Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) today announced plans to begin integrating the operations of its three bus companies to create the more seamless and efficient Regional Bus Operations. New York City Transit Bus, MTA Bus and Long Island Bus will each maintain its individual identity and funding, while a managerial restructuring will increase accountability and ensure consistency in serving the entire MTA region.

“By streamlining the management of our bus companies we will eliminate redundancies, improve efficiency and service, and save money,” said Elliot G. Sander, MTA Executive Director and Chief Executive Officer. “This initiative builds on the early success of our subway general manager program, and we will continue to identify and implement ways to become more efficient and improve service for our customers. Unifying bus operations is also a big first step toward creating a truly regional transportation network and is a critical part of our institutional transformation agenda.”

Joseph Smith, Senior Vice President for Buses, NYC Transit, will oversee the new operation, maintaining his current title and assuming the presidency of both MTA Bus and Long Island Bus. Former MTA Bus President Thomas J. Savage recently retired after 37 years of service, and outgoing Long Island Bus President Neil Yellin accepted a promotion to Senior Vice President for Administration at the Long Island Rail Road.

“Tom Savage and Neil Yellin deserve enormous credit for their work at the helm of MTA Bus and Long Island Bus, and for months of tireless activity to help us achieve this new vision. Tom will be sorely missed and we’re lucky that Neil will continue to serve our customers at the LIRR,” said Mr. Sander. “Under Joe Smith’s leadership, I expect great things from our regional bus network.”

Smith assumes the new titles immediately and expects to fully implement the new management structure within 60 to 90 days that will start as early as June 1, 2008. The consolidation is intended to yield savings for the MTA, and the extent of the savings will be identified in the coming months. MTA bus customers will begin to benefit from a number of improvements:

an integrated Command Center and road operations providing a single point of contact for NYCT, MTA Bus and LI Bus customers in case of emergencies;
a comprehensive travel information system with consistent, coordinated regional bus service information on the internet and handheld devices;
more effective staging of resources to better address prioritized needs such as in the case of emergencies, bus shuttles, gaps in service, and other regional service requirements; and
improved response time for all incidents.
“While most of the integration of the bus companies will happen behind the scenes, our top priority is customer service and MTA bus customers can expect to see improvements in the very near future,” said Mr. Smith. “We will leverage the best practices of each bus company by sharing business strategies, policies, and technologies to improve everyone’s ride.”


So with this now offical merge, maybe a new combined route like the N-22/Q-43, Q-12/N-20 & 21, etc. may now happen after all.
Any reactions?


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#420405 - 05/07/08 01:53 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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I don't know if this is good or not. I think the merger between MYCT and MTA Bus might be good. Combining LIB i don't think is necessary.

I also don't think this will influence a merger between the Q43/N22 or Q12/N20/21.

I think 90% of the routes will stay the same. If the merger allows the depots to switch around routes between NYCT and MTA Bus, then i think that will happen. I have a few ideas for route and depot changes. I'll save that for another time.
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#420406 - 05/07/08 01:55 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: guypak]
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#420466 - 05/07/08 03:19 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: guypak]
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 Originally Posted By: guypak
I don't know if this is good or not. I think the merger between MYCT and MTA Bus might be good. Combining LIB i don't think is necessary.

I also don't think this will influence a merger between the Q43/N22 or Q12/N20/21.

I think 90% of the routes will stay the same. If the merger allows the depots to switch around routes between NYCT and MTA Bus, then i think that will happen. I have a few ideas for route and depot changes. I'll save that for another time.


Woops guypak you type "MYCT" instead of "NYCT" no big deal lol
I am not saying i endorse mergering the N-22/Q-43, etc but if the recession gets really bad dont put it past the MTA either.
Maybe bright spot is that LI Bus could now get better bus too.

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#420472 - 05/07/08 03:29 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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 Originally Posted By: R-7 SEPTA Local
 Originally Posted By: guypak
I don't know if this is good or not. I think the merger between MYCT and MTA Bus might be good. Combining LIB i don't think is necessary.

I also don't think this will influence a merger between the Q43/N22 or Q12/N20/21.

I think 90% of the routes will stay the same. If the merger allows the depots to switch around routes between NYCT and MTA Bus, then i think that will happen. I have a few ideas for route and depot changes. I'll save that for another time.


Woops guypak you type "MYCT" instead of "NYCT" no big deal lol
I am not saying i endorse mergering the N-22/Q-43, etc but if the recession gets really bad dont put it past the MTA either.
Maybe bright spot is that LI Bus could now get better bus too.

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#420483 - 05/07/08 05:11 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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I've always wondered why they don't merge the operating agencies since it would save money.
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#420493 - 05/07/08 05:39 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: guypak]
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I agree, routes like the N31/32 and 33 could split with Far Rock depot and such. It would be nice to see an RTS in LI
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#420532 - 05/07/08 06:31 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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 Originally Posted By: R-7 SEPTA Local
 Originally Posted By: guypak
I don't know if this is good or not. I think the merger between MYCT and MTA Bus might be good. Combining LIB i don't think is necessary.

I also don't think this will influence a merger between the Q43/N22 or Q12/N20/21.

I think 90% of the routes will stay the same. If the merger allows the depots to switch around routes between NYCT and MTA Bus, then i think that will happen. I have a few ideas for route and depot changes. I'll save that for another time.


Woops guypak you type "MYCT" instead of "NYCT" no big deal lol
I am not saying i endorse mergering the N-22/Q-43, etc but if the recession gets really bad dont put it past the MTA either.
Maybe bright spot is that LI Bus could now get better bus too.


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#420534 - 05/07/08 06:47 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: guypak]
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I think it's a good idea...it will make management more streamlined.
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#420590 - 05/07/08 09:14 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: RokuSix]
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Good for the public, but one can imagine what this will do to driver's who do things like extra list and vacation relief, like myself
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#420793 - 05/07/08 10:36 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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B-35 i am sure you got a comment/reactions to this topic?

 Originally Posted By: R-7 SEPTA Local
After several years of rumors, it's offical. The MTA has decided that effective June 1, 2008 that New York City Transit, Long Island Bus and MTA Bus Company will offically merge into a new transit agency that will now provide bus service for NYC's 5 Boroughs, Yonkers and Long Island's Nassau County.

Here the press release from the MTA website:

MTA Moves to Streamline Bus Operations
Next Step in Institutional Transformation Agenda
Improves Bus Service By Sharing Resources


The Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) today announced plans to begin integrating the operations of its three bus companies to create the more seamless and efficient Regional Bus Operations. New York City Transit Bus, MTA Bus and Long Island Bus will each maintain its individual identity and funding, while a managerial restructuring will increase accountability and ensure consistency in serving the entire MTA region.

“By streamlining the management of our bus companies we will eliminate redundancies, improve efficiency and service, and save money,” said Elliot G. Sander, MTA Executive Director and Chief Executive Officer. “This initiative builds on the early success of our subway general manager program, and we will continue to identify and implement ways to become more efficient and improve service for our customers. Unifying bus operations is also a big first step toward creating a truly regional transportation network and is a critical part of our institutional transformation agenda.”

Joseph Smith, Senior Vice President for Buses, NYC Transit, will oversee the new operation, maintaining his current title and assuming the presidency of both MTA Bus and Long Island Bus. Former MTA Bus President Thomas J. Savage recently retired after 37 years of service, and outgoing Long Island Bus President Neil Yellin accepted a promotion to Senior Vice President for Administration at the Long Island Rail Road.

“Tom Savage and Neil Yellin deserve enormous credit for their work at the helm of MTA Bus and Long Island Bus, and for months of tireless activity to help us achieve this new vision. Tom will be sorely missed and we’re lucky that Neil will continue to serve our customers at the LIRR,” said Mr. Sander. “Under Joe Smith’s leadership, I expect great things from our regional bus network.”

Smith assumes the new titles immediately and expects to fully implement the new management structure within 60 to 90 days that will start as early as June 1, 2008. The consolidation is intended to yield savings for the MTA, and the extent of the savings will be identified in the coming months. MTA bus customers will begin to benefit from a number of improvements:

an integrated Command Center and road operations providing a single point of contact for NYCT, MTA Bus and LI Bus customers in case of emergencies;
a comprehensive travel information system with consistent, coordinated regional bus service information on the internet and handheld devices;
more effective staging of resources to better address prioritized needs such as in the case of emergencies, bus shuttles, gaps in service, and other regional service requirements; and
improved response time for all incidents.
“While most of the integration of the bus companies will happen behind the scenes, our top priority is customer service and MTA bus customers can expect to see improvements in the very near future,” said Mr. Smith. “We will leverage the best practices of each bus company by sharing business strategies, policies, and technologies to improve everyone’s ride.”


So with this now offical merge, maybe a new combined route like the N-22/Q-43, Q-12/N-20 & 21, etc. may now happen after all.
Any reactions?

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#420820 - 05/08/08 01:05 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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Although I'm not looking forward to low floor buses on Long Island, at least N4 service will likely improve.
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#420826 - 05/08/08 01:12 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: Lex Express]
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I hope they do not screw up bus service in queens and please no more Hybirds!!!!!!
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#420835 - 05/08/08 01:29 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: R32_3838]
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I wonder if MTA going to replace word Long Island Bus?
Can express bus can be extended in Long Island?
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#420860 - 05/08/08 03:31 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: FamousNYLover]
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Hi Yuki! No, New York City Transit Bus, MTA Bus and LI Bus keep their identities but Mr. Joseph Smith now becomes President of both LI Bus and MTA Bus and keeps his position at NYCTAB. Time will tell if Queens Express or Limited routes are extended into Nassau County.
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#420872 - 05/08/08 04:57 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: EE Broadway Local]
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so what does this do to the rest of the boroughs?

I think the goa is to make the system something like NJ transit where many companies are subcontractors under the NJ Transit brand throughout NJ

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#420936 - 05/09/08 01:24 AM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: R32_3838]
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I hope they do not screw up bus service in queens and please no more Hybirds!!!!!!


I agree with you on that.
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#421008 - 05/09/08 10:46 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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 Originally Posted By: R-7 SEPTA Local
B-35 i am sure you got a comment/reactions to this topic?

 Originally Posted By: R-7 SEPTA Local
After several years of rumors, it's offical. The MTA has decided that effective June 1, 2008 that New York City Transit, Long Island Bus and MTA Bus Company will offically merge into a new transit agency that will now provide bus service for NYC's 5 Boroughs, Yonkers and Long Island's Nassau County.

Here the press release from the MTA website:

MTA Moves to Streamline Bus Operations
Next Step in Institutional Transformation Agenda
Improves Bus Service By Sharing Resources


The Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) today announced plans to begin integrating the operations of its three bus companies to create the more seamless and efficient Regional Bus Operations. New York City Transit Bus, MTA Bus and Long Island Bus will each maintain its individual identity and funding, while a managerial restructuring will increase accountability and ensure consistency in serving the entire MTA region.

“By streamlining the management of our bus companies we will eliminate redundancies, improve efficiency and service, and save money,” said Elliot G. Sander, MTA Executive Director and Chief Executive Officer. “This initiative builds on the early success of our subway general manager program, and we will continue to identify and implement ways to become more efficient and improve service for our customers. Unifying bus operations is also a big first step toward creating a truly regional transportation network and is a critical part of our institutional transformation agenda.”

Joseph Smith, Senior Vice President for Buses, NYC Transit, will oversee the new operation, maintaining his current title and assuming the presidency of both MTA Bus and Long Island Bus. Former MTA Bus President Thomas J. Savage recently retired after 37 years of service, and outgoing Long Island Bus President Neil Yellin accepted a promotion to Senior Vice President for Administration at the Long Island Rail Road.

“Tom Savage and Neil Yellin deserve enormous credit for their work at the helm of MTA Bus and Long Island Bus, and for months of tireless activity to help us achieve this new vision. Tom will be sorely missed and we’re lucky that Neil will continue to serve our customers at the LIRR,” said Mr. Sander. “Under Joe Smith’s leadership, I expect great things from our regional bus network.”

Smith assumes the new titles immediately and expects to fully implement the new management structure within 60 to 90 days that will start as early as June 1, 2008. The consolidation is intended to yield savings for the MTA, and the extent of the savings will be identified in the coming months. MTA bus customers will begin to benefit from a number of improvements:

an integrated Command Center and road operations providing a single point of contact for NYCT, MTA Bus and LI Bus customers in case of emergencies;
a comprehensive travel information system with consistent, coordinated regional bus service information on the internet and handheld devices;
more effective staging of resources to better address prioritized needs such as in the case of emergencies, bus shuttles, gaps in service, and other regional service requirements; and
improved response time for all incidents.
“While most of the integration of the bus companies will happen behind the scenes, our top priority is customer service and MTA bus customers can expect to see improvements in the very near future,” said Mr. Smith. “We will leverage the best practices of each bus company by sharing business strategies, policies, and technologies to improve everyone’s ride.”


So with this now offical merge, maybe a new combined route like the N-22/Q-43, Q-12/N-20 & 21, etc. may now happen after all.
Any reactions?

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#421010 - 05/09/08 10:48 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: guypak]
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Do y'all remember when the old PBL's became what is now MTA Bus... and some of us (myself included) brought up the point(s) on how some routes might become altered, possibly axed, etc....

^^ (although the Q10a DID get axed, but that aint the point... lol)

...and now here we are w/ LIB merging with NYCT/MTA Bus to become one agency... and R-7's mentioning the possible merging of certain routes...


I'd be more worried w/ the fleet (now if LIB starts using the RTS's we have here on some of their busier routes; especially the ones that cross county lines, I would be livid...) anyway, you know how the destination signs on LIB's have the route # and the town it terminates in... I sincerely hope that the buses we have in the boroughs doesn't resort to that... for those here in NYC that DO read the destination signs, they will be confused as hell...
^^ on the flipside of that, I don't think ppl. out in LI care much about what street a route terminates on; as long as it serves a town, they feel they can... walk, to w/e street they need to get to w/i a particular town, that isn't on a main/busy street...

so I'm not gonna go crazy on the possible changes of either NYCT's or LIB's routes.... b/c chances are, nothin drastic'll happen in one shot... it's gonna be slow & gradual... like the ongoing changes w/ MTA BUS' routes...


as for how I feel about the merge in itself... meh, this means more for LI riders than it does for NYC riders, tbh... so it's almost like I have no reaction to it... although there are certain routes w/i our boroughs (in our "backyards" so to speak) we cannot stand @ times, bus operations & planning as a whole, throughout the 5 boroughs is pretty good...

^^ Can't sit here & say the same for LIB, though.
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#421038 - 05/10/08 02:41 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: B35 via Church]
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Sure can't. It would be nice to see an LIB with the traditional town-street format like NYCT/MTAB. But then again, most of them terminate at LIRR stations. Like I said before, I don't think this will work out, but we'll see.
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#421076 - 05/10/08 10:49 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: B35 via Church]
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i doubt they would change the destnation signs on the buses in nassau because i highly doubt they would move buses from nassau yards to the city yards (or what ever u want to call where they keep the buses) and visa versa like they do in the city. if they do that they would be nuts.
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#421083 - 05/10/08 11:00 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: Strong]
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The Staten Island Railway will remain a separate agency, apparently. Nice priorities.
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#421130 - 05/11/08 03:48 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: Alon]
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They were also planning on merging NYCT and the SIR to make MTA Subways. I like that name but it would be better if they cut out that S.
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#421141 - 05/11/08 05:06 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: R32_3348]
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Dumb question? Is SIRT/SI Railway a subway or 'commuter rail?'
SIR does not have any 'underground staions' unless you count St George's terminal lol.

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#421155 - 05/11/08 07:13 PM Re: It's offical: NYCT, LI Bus & MTA bus to merge [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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It's rapid transit: it runs at frequent intervals, on a grade-separated right of way that isn't connected to the national railway network.
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