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#418339 - 04/20/08 10:55 PM Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike?
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In the Bronx, is there a local or express route that you dislike and why (B/O, bus model, headways, school/college students, transfers, etc)?
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#418358 - 04/21/08 12:05 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: EE Broadway Local]
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yes. the Bx28...

from the truman kids... to the ignorant a**es that get on/off on at that stop at gun hill rd/white plains rd (around the corner from the last stop of the Bx39)... mind you, these are not necessarily ppl. that live IN those projects...

long story short, I avoid that route like the plague.


I don't bother w/ the Bx26 much due to its headways... but I will tolerate that over the Bx28...


when I have to get to co-op, its either the Bx30, or the Bx12 and a long walk afterwards...
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#418365 - 04/21/08 06:55 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: B35 via Church]
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yes. the Bx6

like the Truman kids on the Bx28, we get stuck with kids from Morris, Jane Addams, and Law/Gov't/Justice high schools.

We also get some ignorant a$$es at Morris Av/161st St (mostly crackheads coming from the methadone clinic, welfare, and social security). They always get through the back door and come short of the fare.

The only time I would take the Bx6 is if I'm going to 155th St in Manhattan.
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#418492 - 04/21/08 10:09 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: cotb16]
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^^ I don't use the Bx6 much, but when I have, yeah, there are a bunch of crackheads, sob-story tellers & other "undesirables" (as Lex Express calls em) that board that route....

haven't seen how bad that route can get w/ rowdy kids though, as I never taken it during after school hrs...
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#418540 - 04/22/08 08:40 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: B35 via Church]
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 Originally Posted By: B35 via Church
^^ I don't use the Bx6 much, but when I have, yeah, there are a bunch of crackheads, sob-story tellers & other "undesirables" (as Lex Express calls em) that board that route....

haven't seen how bad that route can get w/ rowdy kids though, as I never taken it during after school hrs...


I have and they crowd the bus from Yankee Stadium to Southern Blvd. Most get off at Prospect to take the 2/5 or 3rd Av to take the Bx15/21/55.
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#418578 - 04/22/08 02:47 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: cotb16]
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The Bx6 until Hunts Pt Av and the Bx12 until Pelham Bay Station. I don't know if this counts but the QBx1 in Co-Op City
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#418584 - 04/22/08 03:09 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: Q113LTD]
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Thank you for posting Q113 LTD. Yes, this thread is for a Bronx local or express bus route (or two) you dislike.
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#418589 - 04/22/08 03:24 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: Q113LTD]
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 Originally Posted By: Q113LTD
The Bx6 until Hunts Pt Av and the Bx12 until Pelham Bay Station. I don't know if this counts but the QBx1 in Co-Op City


Of course it counts.


Edited by cotb16 (04/22/08 03:24 PM)
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#418631 - 04/22/08 09:06 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: Q113LTD]
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 Originally Posted By: Q113LTD
The Bx6 until Hunts Pt Av and the Bx12 until Pelham Bay Station. I don't know if this counts but the QBx1 in Co-Op City


...barely see the QBx1 in co-op city, if that's what you mean... haha...

w/ me though, the QBx1, when it gets to pelham bay park... ppl. that board it tend to act like savages; cursing out the b/o b/c THEY didn't know what QBx1 stop to wait at, so god forbid they have to walk back a couple steps just to board the front of the bus....

yeh, some board the back, but that's another issue...

but... but, some of those b/o's that are on that route, do tend to stop @ the wrong qbx1 stop....
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#418634 - 04/22/08 09:16 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: B35 via Church]
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In fact, now that you mention it, B35, today the QBx1 going to Section 5 first stopped at the proper stop, but the sign was incorrect.
Mass, mass confusion.
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#418710 - 04/23/08 03:11 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: B35 via Church]
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Yeah, one for CO city and one Flushing that's why many ppl on RD want it broken up into 3 diffrent routes. Don't know if it'll make things better
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#418795 - 04/24/08 12:40 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: EE Broadway Local]
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Bx19-the slowest route in the city. If that didn't suck enough then it also bunches.
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#418817 - 04/24/08 08:14 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: Lex Express]
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 Originally Posted By: Lex Express
Bx19-the slowest route in the city. If that didn't suck enough then it also bunches.


Not to mention so many wheelchairs and disabled (especially between Lincoln Hospital and Southern Blvd).
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#418965 - 04/25/08 01:52 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: RokuSix]
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the lines i hate the most are the Bx9 and the Bx12 because they are always crowded and the Bx36 because of how many rude people ride this line.
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#418975 - 04/25/08 06:14 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: RR]
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 Originally Posted By: RR
the lines i hate the most are the Bx9 and the Bx12 because they are always crowded and the Bx36 because of how many rude people ride this line.


I also hate the Bx9 due to its slowness and the rude high schoolers from Kennedy that go to the 4 train.
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#419343 - 04/27/08 01:02 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: cotb16]
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The Bx19, easily. It's painfully slow, and there have been times I've had to wait more than 40 minutes for it on a weekday afternoon. Making it worse are the disproportionate number of people in wheelchairs; as I've said before, I've seen more wheelchairs on the Bx19 than on any other route in the entire city (not just the Bronx). I used to take it every day from 167th Street to Fordham Road (since I go to Fordham University), but now, more often than not, I walk over to Prospect and get the Bx17 instead.

I also try to avoid the Bx22 because of the annoying DeWitt Clinton kids.


Edited by sebbieprops (04/27/08 01:03 AM)
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#419374 - 04/27/08 08:02 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: sebbieprops]
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 Originally Posted By: sebbieprops
The Bx19, easily. It's painfully slow, and there have been times I've had to wait more than 40 minutes for it on a weekday afternoon. Making it worse are the disproportionate number of people in wheelchairs; as I've said before, I've seen more wheelchairs on the Bx19 than on any other route in the entire city (not just the Bronx). I used to take it every day from 167th Street to Fordham Road (since I go to Fordham University), but now, more often than not, I walk over to Prospect and get the Bx17 instead.

I also try to avoid the Bx22 because of the annoying DeWitt Clinton kids.


I thought the Bx22 doesn't pass through Clinton. It goes through Walton and Bronx Science.
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#419376 - 04/27/08 08:05 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: B35 via Church]
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 Originally Posted By: B35 via Church
yes. the Bx28...

from the truman kids... to the ignorant a**es that get on/off on at that stop at gun hill rd/white plains rd (around the corner from the last stop of the Bx39)... mind you, these are not necessarily ppl. that live IN those projects...

long story short, I avoid that route like the plague.


I don't bother w/ the Bx26 much due to its headways... but I will tolerate that over the Bx28...


when I have to get to co-op, its either the Bx30, or the Bx12 and a long walk afterwards...


Another reason to hate the Bx28, those that get on at Montefiore Hospital. If the bus is not in the front of the bus stop or at the curb, those people complain.
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#420028 - 05/03/08 05:19 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: Lex Express]
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 Originally Posted By: Lex Express
Bx19-the slowest route in the city. If that didn't suck enough then it also bunches.


This is why I recommend splitting the Bx19.

1. The Bx19 would run from Riverbank Park to the Bronx Zoo. It would run its regular route up to Westchester/Southern where it would run up West Farms Rd until 180th/Boston Rd.

2. Southern Blvd would be served by the new Bx38 where it would run between 135th/St. Ann's and 205th/Paul via Southern/Bedford Park.
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#420033 - 05/03/08 05:31 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: cotb16]
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 Originally Posted By: cotb16
 Originally Posted By: Lex Express
Bx19-the slowest route in the city. If that didn't suck enough then it also bunches.


This is why I recommend splitting the Bx19.

1. The Bx19 would run from Riverbank Park to the Bronx Zoo. It would run its regular route up to Westchester/Southern where it would run up West Farms Rd until 180th/Boston Rd.

2. Southern Blvd would be served by the new Bx38 where it would run between 135th/St. Ann's and 205th/Paul via Southern/Bedford Park.

you guys have some wild imaginations....
service from st ann's to the bronx h.s. of science ??

well, at least the first half of the idea isn't too bad....
although turning the 19 down tremont would be much more easier... and not near as many southern blvd. riders would have to suffer from that "bx38"....
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#420221 - 05/05/08 07:36 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: B35 via Church]
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 Originally Posted By: B35 via Church
 Originally Posted By: cotb16
 Originally Posted By: Lex Express
Bx19-the slowest route in the city. If that didn't suck enough then it also bunches.


This is why I recommend splitting the Bx19.

1. The Bx19 would run from Riverbank Park to the Bronx Zoo. It would run its regular route up to Westchester/Southern where it would run up West Farms Rd until 180th/Boston Rd.

2. Southern Blvd would be served by the new Bx38 where it would run between 135th/St. Ann's and 205th/Paul via Southern/Bedford Park.

you guys have some wild imaginations....
service from st ann's to the bronx h.s. of science ??

well, at least the first half of the idea isn't too bad....
although turning the 19 down tremont would be much more easier... and not near as many southern blvd. riders would have to suffer from that "bx38"....



I chose the Bx38's route for two main reasons:

1. Since the Bx17's rerouting to St. Ann's Av in 2005, there is no bus route serving areas east of St. Mary's Park.

2. Running via Bedford Park Blvd/Southern allows riders to access Bedford Park without going through the traffic-ridden Fordham.
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#420383 - 05/07/08 12:05 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: cotb16]
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There are a few buses that suck.

QBx1 - not enough buses at any time of day, especially when the sun goes down. God help you then if find yourself waiting for a bus at 8pm.

Bx19 - slow azz bus. You'd think the artics would help that line out but they find a way to make an already slow bus even slower. It's a catch-22 cause they need those buses. If I need that bus, I make sure I don't have to be on it for long. I've beaten that bus from 149th - GC to 145th and Lenox Av many times.

Bx28 - I don't dislike the line but I can't stand the riders of that line. They are so rude and they just love to beat the fare, especially at the worst stop of the whole line, Gun Hill and White Plains Rd. I've had days I've wanted to spit on some of them cause they are so loud and unruly.

Bx30 - same as Bx28



Edited by Princelex (05/07/08 12:07 PM)
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#420386 - 05/07/08 12:54 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: Princelex]
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 Originally Posted By: Princelex

Bx28 - I don't dislike the line but I can't stand the riders of that line. They are so rude and they just love to beat the fare, especially at the worst stop of the whole line, Gun Hill and White Plains Rd. I've had days I've wanted to spit on some of them cause they are so loud and unruly.

Bx30 - same as Bx28



White Plains/Gun Hill isn't the only bad stop on those lines. The other main two are Truman High School and Montefiore Hospital.
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#420794 - 05/07/08 10:41 PM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: cotb16]
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not just the stop, but that whole area around montefiore is a traffic nightmare... doesn't help when you have 3 buses trying to pull into a bus stop that's on a narrow street to begin with (bainbridge).... yes, I know more routes stop there, but it is not uncommon to see 3 physical buses lined up one behind the other @ that stop....

^^ you need more than one hand to count how many traffic accidents has happened on bainbridge/gun hill rd., whether vehicle-vehicle or vehicle-pedestrian....



the truman stop is only horrendous when those schoolkids let out... otherwise, it's just about dead...


but that WPR/Gun hill intersection... far too much BS happens at that stop... it's by far the worse of the three... from the farebeaters, to the (otherwise) inconsiderate/impatient riders, to the homies on the co'ner lookin to start trouble, the list goes on...

^^ sure the Bx30 uses that stop also... but what I'm gettin at is, most of the riff-raff happens on that Bx28... let a Bx28 & a Bx30 pull up @ that stop... see where most the ppl. go runnin towards.... I don't care what time of day it is....
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#420802 - 05/08/08 07:20 AM Re: Is There A Bronx Bus Route You Dislike? [Re: B35 via Church]
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I forgot to mention another hated Bronx route, the Bx41.

Compared to the 3rd Av buses, the Bx41 is a joke when it comes to speed and performance. It is slow (especially in the area around the projects from 168th-Claremont).

Also, the Bx41 has its fair share of fare-beaters and drug addicts that get on at the N/B stop just north of Fordham Road (near 193rd St).
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