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#417080 - 04/10/08 04:49 PM The (V) Train Thread
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What are your thoughts on (V) train service and what do you envision as possible improvements to current (V) service?
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#417083 - 04/10/08 04:59 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: EE Broadway Local]
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It's a good alternative if you're sick of crowded trains during rush hour. But you'd have to wake up earlier. I personally don't use it (i prefer 10 more minutes of sleep over crowded cars considering i take the E and 6 to school) but it's a consistent train.
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#417244 - 04/11/08 08:04 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: EE Broadway Local]
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The "V" is such a great train. It is really doing the job of keeping passengers from switching to the express. The thing I will like for the "V" is an extension to church avenue.
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#417257 - 04/11/08 09:41 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: W Broadway Local]
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I have such a soft, affectionate spot for the V. It's more peaceful than the E. I view it as an underdog of sorts. The train that nobody likes.
Give it time.
She'll go places.
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#417263 - 04/11/08 10:56 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: EE Broadway Local]
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 Originally Posted By: EE Broadway Local
What are your thoughts on (V) train service and what do you envision as possible improvements to current (V) service?


The Vampire train is the worst thing that ever happened to the subway.



Edited by Lex Express (04/11/08 10:56 PM)
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#417288 - 04/12/08 09:03 AM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: Lex Express]
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 Originally Posted By: Lex Express
 Originally Posted By: EE Broadway Local
What are your thoughts on (V) train service and what do you envision as possible improvements to current (V) service?


The Vampire train is the worst thing that ever happened to the subway.



Lex express. I admit i dont like the "V" train either as they should have run via 63rd St and not the "F" line.
However the "V" is here to stay especially since the MTA spent appx. $500 Million to bulid the connection between 63rd and QB lines.

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#417289 - 04/12/08 09:15 AM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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Another thing is that there's so much potential with the V.
Also, many don't use it because they think it's a slow local and will take a lot longer than the express. Example - yesterday around 6:30 PM me and two of my friends got off the 6 to transfer to the E at 51st/53rd. When we got off the escalator an E was leaving and a V came a minute later. They got on it complaining that it would take much longer to get to their destination (one's was Roosevelt, one's was Forest Hills) but I stayed behind for the E (a mini experiment). It came 2 minutes later and at Queens Plaza we were stalled because of an F train.

We arrived at Roosevelt Avenue at the same time...
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#417293 - 04/12/08 10:59 AM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: R32_3348]
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The V train SUCKS!!!!! I hate It!!!! The V was going to be R40s but they got the R46's instead.
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#417294 - 04/12/08 11:01 AM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: R32_3838]
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Wow. A miracle. R-32 3838 and Lex Express are in agreement on a topic lol.
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#417363 - 04/13/08 12:25 AM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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The V. Underused and useless to me.

I don't think it deserves its own thread. \:\)


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#417411 - 04/13/08 08:20 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: guypak]
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I actually like the V. When I went to high school, I went to Court Square then took the V to the F and it was always a lovely ride.
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#417522 - 04/13/08 10:31 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: cotb16]
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In one word: pointless.

Every station on the (V) is served by at least one other train, if not more. Just increase the headways on the existing trains, rather than start new lines.
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#417529 - 04/13/08 10:43 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: sebbieprops]
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Sebbie are you saying 'scrap' the "V" and have the "F" serve on alternative trains both 53rd and 63rd St station similar to the "A" does with Lefferts and Far Rockaway in Queens?
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#417533 - 04/13/08 10:51 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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Under my proposal, the (F) would run on 63rd at all times, and the (E) on 53rd at all times, both with more frequent headways, while the (V) was scrapped.
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#417587 - 04/14/08 01:40 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: sebbieprops]
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 Originally Posted By: sebbieprops
both with more frequent headways, while the (V) was scrapped.


So what supplement R service under your plan?
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#417623 - 04/14/08 04:07 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: Brighton Line]
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both with more frequent headways, while the (V) was scrapped.


So what supplement R service under your plan?


Have the (G) run to Forest Hills full time.
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#417659 - 04/14/08 04:52 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: sebbieprops]
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both with more frequent headways, while the (V) was scrapped.


So what supplement R service under your plan?


Have the (G) run to Forest Hills full time.


Sebbie. You aware the reason why the "V" was created so that riders at 'local queens blvd stations' could have access to the 53rd St stations and 6th Ave. That was what former long time Queens boro President Claire Schulman pushed for years to do.
So what you propose for those riders who 'may whine' about losing "V" service and access from QB local-53rd St stations?
Also what about Lex Ave acess for Hillside Ave riders too which is biggest complaint for Queens "F" line riders?


Biggest problem is that nobody whether it was political officals or the MTA expected the population boom in Williamsburg/Greenpoint along the "G" line.

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#418187 - 04/20/08 01:37 AM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
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My solution would be to have the (F) stop at every station from Queens Plaza through Forest Hills/71st (36th, Steinway, 46th, Northern, etc). The (R) already stops at all those, allowing them access to the Broadway line; if the (F) stops at them all, they would gain access to the Sixth Avenue line. If the riders really need to get to 53rd, they can transfer to the (E) at Queens Plaza.
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#418225 - 04/20/08 02:01 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: sebbieprops]
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 Originally Posted By: sebbieprops
My solution would be to have the (F) stop at every station from Queens Plaza through Forest Hills/71st (36th, Steinway, 46th, Northern, etc). The (R) already stops at all those, allowing them access to the Broadway line; if the (F) stops at them all, they would gain access to the Sixth Avenue line. If the riders really need to get to 53rd, they can transfer to the (E) at Queens Plaza.


One problem...the F doesn't stop at Queens Plaza...

Oh, and if you scrap the (V), you can't increase (E) or (F) service by that since both lines are already at capacity. The (R) can be a problem too since relaying (i think the term's fumgiation?) at Forest Hills might not let that happen. Not to mention that the (R) is an inconsistent line.

Basically the reason the (V) was created was mainly that politicians were screaming for a local train servicing the 53rd Street corridor. The (V) does just that. It is practically empty, but most of the seats are usually full and you can imagine how much more crowded the (E) would be if those passengers from the (V) crammed on (seriously).

Bringing back the (G) to Queens Plaza would basically shuttle riders from local stops onto the (E) which would cause delays based on how crowded the express lines on QB have become at this point.
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#418234 - 04/20/08 03:46 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: EE Broadway Local]
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I like it in that unless its during rush hour you'll always get a seat. Doesn't take long to travel the route; i forgot when I did it, but it wasn't long ago, and only took like 40 minutes to get from FH-second ave.
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#420360 - 05/06/08 10:35 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: 7express]
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The V train is the bane of any Express rider from Queens. My theory is that it's the cause of much of the congestion in the AM rush. Why? First, it cuts off the E as it goes in toward Lex/53, and because that's not obnoxious enough then it cuts off the F at Rock.

Is there any other city that has a subway system where trains cut each other off? When you have to 'wait for the V train to cross in front'?

The only civilized solution to all this would be to have individual tunnels for each line. In the next world, maybe.

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#420368 - 05/07/08 12:52 AM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: camilof]
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Because you can't have all E's and F's using the same tunnel. There's not enough space on 53rd for both lines. That is why the F had to be separated and then both lines received a service increase. 63rd is a much better tunnel for the F as it doesn't have to be delayed by 5th Av or Lexington Av on 53rd Street.
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#420480 - 05/07/08 05:00 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: Grand Concourse]
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The F has to cross in front of the E east of Queens Plaza too you know. And the E usually receives priority over the (E) so usually it's the other way around.

Anyway, ever since spring break ended the E's been taking forever on the stretch between Roosevelt avenue and Queens Plaza I've resorted to taking the (V) instead of the (E) now. I don't know why people say it's empty...it was PACKED the other day...
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#420836 - 05/08/08 01:30 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: camilof]
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 Originally Posted By: camilof
The V train is the bane of any Express rider from Queens. My theory is that it's the cause of much of the congestion in the AM rush. Why? First, it cuts off the E as it goes in toward Lex/53, and because that's not obnoxious enough then it cuts off the F at Rock.

Is there any other city that has a subway system where trains cut each other off? When you have to 'wait for the V train to cross in front'?

The only civilized solution to all this would be to have individual tunnels for each line. In the next world, maybe.


The V isn't what's causing the congestion. They're doing trackwork on the stretch between Roosevelt and Queens Plaza. I'm not defending the V-I still hate it for cutting the F off from a major transfer point. Instead of dealing with the joke known as Queeens Blvd spend the extra money to take the express bus. It is a much better commute.
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#420977 - 05/09/08 03:18 PM Re: The (V) Train Thread [Re: Lex Express]
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Well, I live on 46th St. in Queens and work near Bryant Park, and I get a creeping suspicion that I'm not alone in either. I realize people who live a million miles into Queens love their express trains, but they should probably consider that there's a lot of people living in lower Astoria and Woodside who also need a train to get them to Manhattan or (ho ho) Brooklyn.
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