#412836 - 03/16/08 12:37 AM
Re: what suffolk transit should do.
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Qtraindash
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Roads are clogged on Sunday, like that's different than any other day? Besides, maybe buses on Sunday would get people out of their cars? The main problem with the S90 is the runs dont connect up with the Speonk shuttle. I think just adding a run earlier and a run later would help. I dont think the many folks who ride the S66 between Moriches, Mastic, Shirley, and Riverhead/SCC would want that route cut back! Since the S66 was extended ridership increased significantly. Having it end in Moriches was just crazy. Yes, the S92 has to be split up. And like I said there needs to be additional runs to cope with the crowding, which is mainly between Bridgehampton and Riverhead. Of course if they did something about the "Day laborers" service could stay as is, but right now they crowd the buses so bad that other folks cant get on. I hear stories of folks going to Riverhead in the afternoon waiting for the S92 in Hampton Bays getting screwed when the bus goes right past them because it's full of day laborers. I dont know how anyone can stand for that, esp when elderly and disabled folks cant get a seat or even get on the bus. Then again, if I was driving the S92 I'd buzz the day laborers at North Sea Rd in Southampton and leave 'em there.
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#412957 - 03/16/08 09:24 PM
Re: what suffolk transit should do.
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Aiight....here are the S92's Terminals!
Orient Point - 50 feet from the drive-in Ferry Dock for boats to New London, CT and other places
Greenport - Across the Street from an IGA supermarket, 5 blocks east and 2 blocks north of LIRR Greenport on Front St.
Riverhead - Obviously the RR station and the Courthouses on a few local junction points that include CR 94 and NYS 24.
Bridgehampton - Montauk Highway and Bridgehampton - Sag Harbor Turnpike near the RR station.
East Hampton - Newtown Road, just north of Montauk Highway. Actually there's a stop @ the RR station too.
Wait till you see my ideas...starting NOW!
S94 - Montauk Lighthouse to East Hampton.
S92 - Riverhead to East Hampton via ALL of Montauk Highway, no Sag Harbor!
10B - Bridgehampton RR via Bridgehampton/Sag Harbor Tpke and NYS 114 to 3 mile Harbor via East Hampton.
S84 - Riverhead to Greenport and Orient Point.
Limited Stops? How about:
S92! Stops would be:
East Hampton RR
Town line Road
Bridgehampton RR
Water Mill Town Road
Southampton RR and Hospital
Shinnecock Hills Country Club
Southampton College
Hampton Bays RR
Express to Riverhead!
S84? Stopping at:
Riverhead County Offices & RR station
Peconic Bay Med. Center
All Shopping centers around CR 58 in Riverhead
Tuthill Lane
Laurel Lane
Mattituck RR
Depot Lane
Southold RR
Sunrise Coach Garage
Greenport RR and IGA
Eastern LI Hospital
Rocky Pt Road
Narrow River Road
Orient Point Ferry Dock
Also a commuter Connection from Greenport to Orient Point Ferry Dock for LIRR customers only, known as the 9A. Flag system only.
Nice Idea's Except No Buses Have Any Limited Stops My Confuse Ppl Who Doesn't Take or Understand The MTA (Like Me)
what the routes should look like:
S1- Keep The Way It Is
1A&B- Keep The Way It Is
2A&B- Keep The Way It Is
3A,B,C- Keep The Same
3D- Have It Go To The Long Island Veterans Home In Stony Brook Like The S71
5A- Move The Stop In Middle Island To The Wal-mart
6A&B- Keep The Same
7A- Add Another Bus
7B- Have The Bus When It Goes To Medford Go Up Old Dock Road In Yanpank Like S68, Add Another Bus That Goes Only To Medford.
7D- Add Two BusES So That The 7E Driver Doesn't Have To Interline.
7E- Keep It The Way It Is
8A- Keep The Same Way It Is
10A- Keep The Same
10B- A Possible Addtion Of A Bus So That It May Make A Stop At The Soth Ferry If Needed
10C- Keep The Same
10D&E- Keep The Same With Addtion Of Saturday Service
S20- Keep The Same
S23- Keep The Same
S25- Keep The Same
S27- Keep The Same
S29- Keep The Same
S31- Have It Stop At Suny Farmingdale AND Molloy University (if they want a bus to stop there0, Start it and stop it at the Copiague RR, and possbly add either another bus or more runs.
S33- Have it stop at the kohls in massapequa at certain times
S35- add a saturday srevice
S40- Keep The Same
S41- Have It Stop At Bay Shore RR
S42- have the first bus leave babylon rr at 7:45 a.m instead of 8:50 a.m, have the last bus leaving babylon end at south shore mall instead of bay shore
S45- Keep The Same
S47- Keep The Same
S54- Keep The Same
S56- Keep The Same
S57- Keep The Same
S58- Move The Stop In Middle Island To The Wal-Mart
S59- Keep The Same
S60- Keep The Same
S61- Keep The Schedule the same on saturday
S62- Keep The Same
S63- See The Possiblty Of Having It Run To Brookhaven Town Hall On Certain Trips
S66- Keep The Same
S68- Make It Stop At Sothport Shopping Center In Shirley
S69- add a bus that would run the oppsite way of the current one
S71- Keep The Same
S76- Make It The 5B, Or Add On So It Would Stop At The St James RR and then add another bus to it
S90- Add Another Bus To The Route
S92- Split In To Two Routes Numbered 9A and 9B Respetfully Or 8B And 8C. Add More Buses To The Second Part Of The Route, Have It Stop in Greenpoint at either the IGA supermarket or Greenport RR, With It Stopping At Orient Point At Certain Times
S94- Either start it earlier or end it later
S110/Suffolk Clipper- Keep It As It Is
Other Things To Be Done:
Make Sure All Buses Have Working Or New Radios.
Hampton Jitney Has To Do The Changes Made Or they Will Lose Transit Contract.
The Creation Of A Dispatch Center For All Buses Filled With Staff That Use To Dispatch For The Companies. To Be Located In Either Yanpank Or Happauge.
A Specal Card That Is To Be Shown To A Driver If U Are Transfering To Of From A Long Island Bus
people over the age of 65 and on medicare pay 25 cents.
service dogs for the blind will be allowed on the bus.
The Things That Are Not Going To Change:
No! And I Mean No Sunday Service, Enless There Ar Rotes That Are In Real And I Mean REAL Need For It.
And as i said before, No Limiteds Or Express Buses.
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#412964 - 03/16/08 09:35 PM
Re: what suffolk transit should do.
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Registered: 02/24/08
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Roads are clogged on Sunday, like that's different than any other day? Besides, maybe buses on Sunday would get people out of their cars? The main problem with the S90 is the runs dont connect up with the Speonk shuttle. I think just adding a run earlier and a run later would help. I dont think the many folks who ride the S66 between Moriches, Mastic, Shirley, and Riverhead/SCC would want that route cut back! Since the S66 was extended ridership increased significantly. Having it end in Moriches was just crazy. Yes, the S92 has to be split up. And like I said there needs to be additional runs to cope with the crowding, which is mainly between Bridgehampton and Riverhead. Of course if they did something about the "Day laborers" service could stay as is, but right now they crowd the buses so bad that other folks cant get on. I hear stories of folks going to Riverhead in the afternoon waiting for the S92 in Hampton Bays getting screwed when the bus goes right past them because it's full of day laborers. I dont know how anyone can stand for that, esp when elderly and disabled folks cant get a seat or even get on the bus. Then again, if I was driving the S92 I'd buzz the day laborers at North Sea Rd in Southampton and leave 'em there.
i could see your point, Montauk Hwy Here In Mastic Ain't That Crowded With Cars During The Middle Moring As It Is On Saturday Or Sunday.
but yea it is a BIG Diffrence Cuz In Some places Like Here In Mastic/Shirly The Traffic Is Bumper To Bumper Where U'll Be Lucky If U Could Move Two Inches In A Minute. Now Put Transit Buses On The Road And It Would Be Worse
But What Works Is What Works And If That Means No Sunday Service Then No Sunday Service Sorry
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#413001 - 03/17/08 12:17 AM
Re: what suffolk transit should do.
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B35 via Church
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Registered: 08/18/05
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you know more about SCT than I do, so I'll pose this question to ya...
Why is it, when you look @ the map & the online timetable, the S45 is designated to stop @ LIRR Smithtown...
...but the (only) 3 times I've taken the route, everytime, I get let off well short of middle country rd? It makes a u-turn on a small road that merges with hauppauge rd (again, that's short of middle country rd), and then continues SB....
^^ if it helps any, I was thinking maybe b/c it only serves the LIRR station during rush hours? This all happened to me, on the S45, b/w the hrs. of 10-11 am (on each occasion)....
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#413027 - 03/17/08 10:09 AM
Re: what suffolk transit should do.
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D.A.
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Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 1555
Loc: EAST NY, BROOKLYN, NYC
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"10C- Keep The Same"
Hell no.
I suppose you never rode the 10C, have you?
The 1st bus out of Montauk Dock (6:50am) is SRO!
Rush hours this bus gets overloaded, Summertime I don't even wanna go there!
According to a old HJ driver, the 10C was seasonal when it 1st started around 20 years or so ago. Then came those Day Laborers from Riverhead and Southampton that came from the old S94 from Southampton to the Montauk Lighthouse....won't you believe it that MAD Jamaicans are in Montauk?
Then the 10C started seeing so much damnridership, that the 10C was made into a regular feeder route over 10 years ago! Ever since then, the S94 was cut to East Hampton, then Downtown Montauk, now? Summer Service only! Basically, the 10C and S94 flip-flopped.
So yeah, I say add 2 extra buses aka runs on the 10C, for the 10C is growing as fast as Bee-Line's Route 20.
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#413028 - 03/17/08 10:12 AM
Re: what suffolk transit should do.
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D.A.
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Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 1555
Loc: EAST NY, BROOKLYN, NYC
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you know more about SCT than I do, so I'll pose this question to ya... Why is it, when you look @ the map & the online timetable, the S45 is designated to stop @ LIRR Smithtown... ...but the (only) 3 times I've taken the route, everytime, I get let off well short of middle country rd? It makes a u-turn on a small road that merges with hauppauge rd (again, that's short of middle country rd), and then continues SB.... ^^ if it helps any, I was thinking maybe b/c it only serves the LIRR station during rush hours? This all happened to me, on the S45, b/w the hrs. of 10-11 am (on each occasion)....
Uhh, if you want Smithtown RR station on the S45 and the driver lets you off @ Middle Country Road, just walk westbound.
There's a stairway on the RR overpass that leads into Smithtown RR station anyway....
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#413100 - 03/17/08 08:21 PM
Re: what suffolk transit should do.
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Registered: 02/24/08
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you know more about SCT than I do, so I'll pose this question to ya... Why is it, when you look @ the map & the online timetable, the S45 is designated to stop @ LIRR Smithtown... ...but the (only) 3 times I've taken the route, everytime, I get let off well short of middle country rd? It makes a u-turn on a small road that merges with hauppauge rd (again, that's short of middle country rd), and then continues SB.... ^^ if it helps any, I was thinking maybe b/c it only serves the LIRR station during rush hours? This all happened to me, on the S45, b/w the hrs. of 10-11 am (on each occasion).... Uhh, if you want Smithtown RR station on the S45 and the driver lets you off @ Middle Country Road, just walk westbound. There's a stairway on the RR overpass that leads into Smithtown RR station anyway....
its prob cuz the smithtown RR parking lot either doesn't have room for the bus to move around or its not accessable. i don't know
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#413101 - 03/17/08 08:27 PM
Re: what suffolk transit should do.
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Registered: 02/24/08
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"10C- Keep The Same"
Hell no.
I suppose you never rode the 10C, have you?
The 1st bus out of Montauk Dock (6:50am) is SRO!
Rush hours this bus gets overloaded, Summertime I don't even wanna go there!
According to a old HJ driver, the 10C was seasonal when it 1st started around 20 years or so ago. Then came those Day Laborers from Riverhead and Southampton that came from the old S94 from Southampton to the Montauk Lighthouse....won't you believe it that MAD Jamaicans are in Montauk?
Then the 10C started seeing so much damnridership, that the 10C was made into a regular feeder route over 10 years ago! Ever since then, the S94 was cut to East Hampton, then Downtown Montauk, now? Summer Service only! Basically, the 10C and S94 flip-flopped.
So yeah, I say add 2 extra buses aka runs on the 10C, for the 10C is growing as fast as Bee-Line's Route 20.
ok, then add ONE bus not two cuz then you would be takeing a bus away from riding on the new 9B or 8C (What ever u want to call the Riverhead To East Hampton Route)
and this is the first i've ever heard of the 10C being a problem so how was i surpose to know what changes needed to be made to the route.
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#413102 - 03/17/08 08:33 PM
Re: what suffolk transit should do.
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Strong
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Registered: 02/24/08
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Aiight....here are the S92's Terminals!
Orient Point - 50 feet from the drive-in Ferry Dock for boats to New London, CT and other places
Greenport - Across the Street from an IGA supermarket, 5 blocks east and 2 blocks north of LIRR Greenport on Front St.
Riverhead - Obviously the RR station and the Courthouses on a few local junction points that include CR 94 and NYS 24.
Bridgehampton - Montauk Highway and Bridgehampton - Sag Harbor Turnpike near the RR station.
East Hampton - Newtown Road, just north of Montauk Highway. Actually there's a stop @ the RR station too.
Wait till you see my ideas...starting NOW!
S94 - Montauk Lighthouse to East Hampton.
S92 - Riverhead to East Hampton via ALL of Montauk Highway, no Sag Harbor!
10B - Bridgehampton RR via Bridgehampton/Sag Harbor Tpke and NYS 114 to 3 mile Harbor via East Hampton.
S84 - Riverhead to Greenport and Orient Point.
Limited Stops? How about:
S92! Stops would be:
East Hampton RR
Town line Road
Bridgehampton RR
Water Mill Town Road
Southampton RR and Hospital
Shinnecock Hills Country Club
Southampton College
Hampton Bays RR
Express to Riverhead!
S84? Stopping at:
Riverhead County Offices & RR station
Peconic Bay Med. Center
All Shopping centers around CR 58 in Riverhead
Tuthill Lane
Laurel Lane
Mattituck RR
Depot Lane
Southold RR
Sunrise Coach Garage
Greenport RR and IGA
Eastern LI Hospital
Rocky Pt Road
Narrow River Road
Orient Point Ferry Dock
Also a commuter Connection from Greenport to Orient Point Ferry Dock for LIRR customers only, known as the 9A. Flag system only. Nice Idea's Except No Buses Have Any Limited Stops My Confuse Ppl Who Doesn't Take or Understand The MTA (Like Me) what the routes should look like: S1- Keep The Way It Is 1A&B- Keep The Way It Is 2A&B- Keep The Way It Is 3A,B,C- Keep The Same 3D- Have It Go To The Long Island Veterans Home In Stony Brook Like The S71 5A- Move The Stop In Middle Island To The Wal-mart 6A&B- Keep The Same 7A- Add Another Bus 7B- Have The Bus When It Goes To Medford Go Up Old Dock Road In Yanpank Like S68, Add Another Bus That Goes Only To Medford. 7D- Add Two BusES So That The 7E Driver Doesn't Have To Interline. 7E- Keep It The Way It Is 8A- Keep The Same Way It Is 10A- Keep The Same 10B- A Possible Addtion Of A Bus So That It May Make A Stop At The Soth Ferry If Needed 10C- Keep The Same 10D&E- Keep The Same With Addtion Of Saturday Service S20- Keep The Same S23- Keep The Same S25- Keep The Same S27- Keep The Same S29- Keep The Same S31- Have It Stop At Suny Farmingdale AND Molloy University (if they want a bus to stop there0, Start it and stop it at the Copiague RR, and possbly add either another bus or more runs. S33- Have it stop at the kohls in massapequa at certain times S35- add a saturday srevice S40- Keep The Same S41- Have It Stop At Bay Shore RR S42- have the first bus leave babylon rr at 7:45 a.m instead of 8:50 a.m, have the last bus leaving babylon end at south shore mall instead of bay shore S45- Keep The Same S47- Keep The Same S54- Keep The Same S56- Keep The Same S57- Keep The Same S58- Move The Stop In Middle Island To The Wal-Mart S59- Keep The Same S60- Keep The Same S61- Keep The Schedule the same on saturday S62- Keep The Same S63- See The Possiblty Of Having It Run To Brookhaven Town Hall On Certain Trips S66- Keep The Same S68- Make It Stop At Sothport Shopping Center In Shirley S69- add a bus that would run the oppsite way of the current one S71- Keep The Same S76- Make It The 5B, Or Add On So It Would Stop At The St James RR and then add another bus to it S90- Add Another Bus To The Route S92- Split In To Two Routes Numbered 9A and 9B Respetfully Or 8B And 8C. Add More Buses To The Second Part Of The Route, Have It Stop in Greenpoint at either the IGA supermarket or Greenport RR, With It Stopping At Orient Point At Certain Times S94- Either start it earlier or end it later S110/Suffolk Clipper- Keep It As It Is Other Things To Be Done: Make Sure All Buses Have Working Or New Radios. Hampton Jitney Has To Do The Changes Made Or they Will Lose Transit Contract. The Creation Of A Dispatch Center For All Buses Filled With Staff That Use To Dispatch For The Companies. To Be Located In Either Yanpank Or Happauge. A Specal Card That Is To Be Shown To A Driver If U Are Transfering To Of From A Long Island Bus people over the age of 65 and on medicare pay 25 cents. service dogs for the blind will be allowed on the bus. The Things That Are Not Going To Change: No! And I Mean No Sunday Service, Enless There Ar Rotes That Are In Real And I Mean REAL Need For It. And as i said before, No Limiteds Or Express Buses.
Change to the 10C and S94!, tell me what else u think needs to be changed
Nice Idea's Except No Buses Have Any Limited Stops My Confuse Ppl Who Doesn't Take or Understand The MTA (Like Me)
what the routes should look like:
S1- Keep The Way It Is
1A&B- Keep The Way It Is
2A&B- Keep The Way It Is
3A,B,C- Keep The Same
3D- Have It Go To The Long Island Veterans Home In Stony Brook Like The S71
5A- Move The Stop In Middle Island To The Wal-mart
6A&B- Keep The Same
7A- Add Another Bus
7B- Have The Bus When It Goes To Medford Go Up Old Dock Road In Yanpank Like S68, Add Another Bus That Goes Only To Medford.
7D- Add Two BusES So That The 7E Driver Doesn't Have To Interline.
7E- Keep It The Way It Is
8A- Keep The Same Way It Is
10A- Keep The Same
10B- A Possible Addtion Of A Bus So That It May Make A Stop At The Soth Ferry If Needed
10C- Add One More Bus, Then Add Another Bus Once The New 9A&B Route Is UpAnd Running With No Problems Or At Least At A Minimal
10D&E- Keep The Same With Addtion Of Saturday Service
S20- Keep The Same
S23- Keep The Same
S25- Keep The Same
S27- Keep The Same
S29- Keep The Same
S31- Have It Stop At Suny Farmingdale AND Molloy University (if they want a bus to stop there0, Start it and stop it at the Copiague RR, and possbly add either another bus or more runs.
S33- Have it stop at the kohls in massapequa at certain times
S35- add a saturday srevice
S40- Keep The Same
S41- Have It Stop At Bay Shore RR
S42- have the first bus leave babylon rr at 7:45 a.m instead of 8:50 a.m, have the last bus leaving babylon end at south shore mall instead of bay shore
S45- Keep The Same
S47- Keep The Same
S54- Keep The Same
S56- Keep The Same
S57- Keep The Same
S58- Move The Stop In Middle Island To The Wal-Mart
S59- Keep The Same
S60- Keep The Same
S61- Keep The Schedule the same on saturday
S62- Keep The Same
S63- See The Possiblty Of Having It Run To Brookhaven Town Hall On Certain Trips
S66- Keep The Same
S68- Make It Stop At Sothport Shopping Center In Shirley
S69- add a bus that would run the oppsite way of the current one
S71- Keep The Same
S76- Make It The 5B, Or Add On So It Would Stop At The St James RR and then add another bus to it
S90- Add Another Bus To The Route
S92- Split In To Two Routes Numbered 9A and 9B Respetfully Or 8B And 8C. Add More Buses To The Second Part Of The Route, Have It Stop in Greenpoint at either the IGA supermarket or Greenport RR, With It Stopping At Orient Point At Certain Times
S94- Either start it earlier or end it later, or both to relieve the overcrowded 10C Possible Start In East Hampton
S110/Suffolk Clipper- Keep It As It Is
Other Things To Be Done:
Make Sure All Buses Have Working Or New Radios.
Hampton Jitney Has To Do The Changes Made Or they Will Lose Transit Contract.
The Creation Of A Dispatch Center For All Buses Filled With Staff That Use To Dispatch For The Companies. To Be Located In Either Yanpank Or Happauge.
A Specal Card That Is To Be Shown To A Driver If U Are Transfering To Of From A Long Island Bus
people over the age of 65 and on medicare pay 25 cents.
service dogs for the blind will be allowed on the bus.
The Things That Are Not Going To Change:
No! And I Mean No Sunday Service, Enless There Ar Rotes That Are In Real And I Mean REAL Need For It.
And as i said before, No Limiteds Or Express Buses.
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#413126 - 03/17/08 10:31 PM
Re: what suffolk transit should do.
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No! And I Mean No Sunday Service, Enless There Ar Rotes That Are In Real And I Mean REAL Need For It. What do you have against Sunday service? Suffolk is one of the only near NYC 'burbs that doesn't have it. It's ludicris you expect people without cars to either stay home or take expensive taxi cabs on Sundays. I'm not saying there should be Sunday service on every route, but certainly the major routes, like the S1, S40, S58, S92,etc. I'll bet you ridership on the new Sunday routes will do very well. I think most ppl here agree with me on this. It's ridiculous not to have bus service on Sundays. Especially for those people who work in the malls who rely on the bus. Maybe you should give them money for cabs.
i have nothing against it other then some people go to church on sundays. but u have to look at other things that it takes to run the bueses, like more fuel. if u haven't noticed fuel prices have gone up, so it would cost more to put fuel in the buses to make them go. u'd have to pay the drivers, dispatchers, and maintanes people more. and you have to look at the buses to see if they can handle the extra day. i don't think u want a bus to break down on sunday and have to be out a whole week and mess up the normal week day service u alredy have. the county doesn't make that much back on the fares, because of the cost of running the buses. and if u add an extra day of service that gives the companies the right to ask for more money in their contracts, so would u want Hampton Jitney To Get More Money For Crapy Service, i don't think u would. and if all of that bwas taking into account and they made a sunday service then the fares would have to go up. so the way i see it it would hurt the people that it is surpose to be helping. i'm sorry man but u can't have your cake and eat it to.
if i was to give sunday service it would be to S1,S54 and S92 because they are the longest. then it would be to the S61, S62 ends at smith haven mall, the S76, S40 and Have The S33 End In Brentwood Because the Hauppague offices would be colsed. but there would have to be a major need if it and not just because you are anyone else says there needs to be just cuz we ain't like the city.
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#413140 - 03/17/08 11:24 PM
Re: what suffolk transit should do.
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Qtraindash
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The Sunday service I suggest would be an extremely small amount, I dont think it would have the impact on the fleet as you would expect. Bee Line used to not have Sunday service either, now they do, and the fleet still remains in great shape. Sunday service on ST would have bi-hourly headways (every 2 hours). Most riders I speak with say their number #1 gripe with ST is no sunday service. My idea would have the S-1 on hourly headways on Sunday, the 62 would run between Rocky Point and Smith Haven only and every 2 hours. The 58 would run it's regular length, once again service every 2 hours. S54 would be regular length and every 2 hours. Same goes for the 61 and 40. S92 Sunday service would only run the East Hampton-Riverhead leg and every 3 hours. The idea would be to limit service to routes that run to malls only (Tanger, Smith Haven, South Shore,etc). I do not think the lack of Sunday service has to do with ST's low fares. It has more to do with the fact there is alot less overhead. ST doesn't have nearly as much management as an MTA agency, for example. LIB breaks down not because they "overextended the schedule" but because the fleet has always been maintained poorly. It has more to do with Nassau county than anything else. Also I don't all of the ST fleet is in great shape. The buses at Sunrise have numerous issues. Pond Road Suffolk Bus has some real junkers. The best companies are CBS Lines and Inter-county. Granted, the worst of ST is still better than what you'll get at LIB. If you really don't want Sunday service, try to get a "blue law" passed. They still have them in Bergen county,NJ, and ironically, NJT runs there on Sundays anyway (just not stopping at the malls). I believe in better mass transit. More flexible schedules will get people off the roads, which helps the environment. Buses do not clog roads, cars do. A bus can take 30 or more cars off the road.
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