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#408845 - 02/21/08 08:25 AM The (3) Train Thread
EE Broadway Local EE Broadway Local TWU President Registered: 11/28/06 Posts: 3996 Loc: Ariz. by way of N.J. & N.Y.	What are your thoughts on the new (3) train late night service from Times Square-42d Street to Harlem-148th Street that will be beginning soon? _________________________ On A Clear Day, You Can See Forever......
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#408847 - 02/21/08 08:37 AM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: EE Broadway Local]
Relay Relay Straphanger Registered: 01/10/08 Posts: 268 Loc: New York City	I'm all for it. It will be a service improvement for Harlem and the West side riders. And a few more jobs for us. _________________________ Photobucket:- http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/ii205/Relay-Metro
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#408988 - 02/21/08 11:07 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: Relay]
sebbieprops sebbieprops MTA Board Member Registered: 06/15/07 Posts: 6650 Loc: Bronx NY 10459	Sounds like a good idea. It should relieve some of the crowding on the Bronx-bound (2) trains during the late nights. _________________________ I never thought Prospect was between Cypress and Brook!
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#409004 - 02/21/08 11:28 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: EE Broadway Local]
Lex Express Lex Express Lord of the Post Registered: 06/27/02 Posts: 15779 Loc: Springfield Gardens, Queens	Originally Posted By: EE Broadway Local What are your thoughts on the new (3) train late night service from Times Square-42d Street to Harlem-148th Street that will be beginning soon? It should run all the way to Brooklyn. This route is a glorified shuttle. _________________________ "This stop is Silver Spring. Red Line to Glenmont. Next stop is Forest Glen".
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#409249 - 02/23/08 02:01 AM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: Lex Express]
Princelex Princelex Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 07/06/04 Posts: 1052 Loc: Co-op City, Bronx NY	Excited as one can be. Moreso for my mom, cause she lives by the 145th St stop on the 3 and to know that the 3 is pretty much going to be a 24 hour line is answered prayer. It really sucked to have to take the 2 to transfer to a bus at 135th, if not take a cab in order to get home. This is going to help a lot of the people in and around the Esplanade Garden area and it's about time. _________________________ May U Live 2 see the Dawn - Prince
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#409250 - 02/23/08 02:04 AM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: Lex Express]
Princelex Princelex Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 07/06/04 Posts: 1052 Loc: Co-op City, Bronx NY	Originally Posted By: Lex Express Originally Posted By: EE Broadway Local What are your thoughts on the new (3) train late night service from Times Square-42d Street to Harlem-148th Street that will be beginning soon? It should run all the way to Brooklyn. This route is a glorified shuttle. But it's way better than what it's been for God knows how many years. _________________________ May U Live 2 see the Dawn - Prince
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#409260 - 02/23/08 10:19 AM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: Lex Express]
R-7 SEPTA Local R-7 SEPTA Local New York State Governor Registered: 10/13/04 Posts: 8520 Loc: Hudson River Valley, NY, USA o...	Originally Posted By: Lex Express Originally Posted By: EE Broadway Local What are your thoughts on the new (3) train late night service from Times Square-42d Street to Harlem-148th Street that will be beginning soon? It should run all the way to Brooklyn. This route is a glorified shuttle. Or Lex. A "compromise could be the #3 ran to the new South Ferry Terminal with #1, late nights only and have the #2 run express 24/7.
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#409282 - 02/23/08 01:56 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
B35 via Church B35 via Church MTA Executive Registered: 08/18/05 Posts: 4052 Loc: East Flatbush	^^ for the most part, I agree w/ that.... the 3 doesn't really have to run to Brooklyn late nights w/ the '2' & the '4' (which goes to new lots via local in brooklyn) already doing so... ------- back to the main idea of the thread... Good... No more late night shuttle bus expletive... about time something was done to improve service on the 3 train. _________________________ The B35... One route that Still does NOT need a limited !!!!
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#410336 - 02/29/08 01:43 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: B35 via Church]
EE Broadway Local EE Broadway Local TWU President Registered: 11/28/06 Posts: 3996 Loc: Ariz. by way of N.J. & N.Y.	Am I assuming correctly that the (3) will be a local, producing 6.5 minutes service, between Times Square-42d Street and 96th Street? I think it's great ten minutes service is coming to Lenox Avenue between 110th Street and 135th Street. _________________________ On A Clear Day, You Can See Forever......
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#410396 - 02/29/08 05:01 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: EE Broadway Local]
mta36 mta36 "The Mole" Boring Machine Operator Registered: 02/28/07 Posts: 805 Loc: Bronx, New York	now the Buses can be rearranged
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#410414 - 02/29/08 06:27 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: EE Broadway Local]
cotb16 cotb16 Subway Engineer Registered: 12/25/05 Posts: 2759 Loc: Morrisania, Bronx	Originally Posted By: EE Broadway Local Am I assuming correctly that the (3) will be a local, producing 6.5 minutes service, between Times Square-42d Street and 96th Street? I think it's great ten minutes service is coming to Lenox Avenue between 110th Street and 135th Street. This would be great for Harlem residents to get to Times Square at any time they wish. _________________________ All That I Needed Was You In My Life You're So Right, All That I Wanted Was You, You Made All....
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#410500 - 03/01/08 10:34 AM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: cotb16]
7th Avenue Express 7th Avenue Express Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 12/30/00 Posts: 1013 Loc: The Boogie Down	I don't think the 3 will be local with the 1 and 2 already running local. The 3 will probably terminate on the express tracks at Times Square, then relay between there and 34th street, then switch to the uptown express tracks to come back uptown. _________________________ LEXINGTON AV EXPRESS BROOKLYN EXPRESS TO NEW LOTS AVENUE
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#410509 - 03/01/08 10:54 AM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: 7th Avenue Express]
R-7 SEPTA Local R-7 SEPTA Local New York State Governor Registered: 10/13/04 Posts: 8520 Loc: Hudson River Valley, NY, USA o...	Originally Posted By: 7th Avenue Express I don't think the 3 will be local with the 1 and 2 already running local. The 3 will probably terminate on the express tracks at Times Square, then relay between there and 34th street, then switch to the uptown express tracks to come back uptown. agree 100% about what the routing will look like. If the TA wanted to create late night service on 7th Ave/Bway line this is what they should have done. *7th Ave/Broadway route late night only under my plan.* #3 Local between 148 St and South Ferry. #2 express in Manhattan 24/7. #1 remains the same.
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#410542 - 03/01/08 03:06 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
Alon Alon Subway Engineer Registered: 08/25/07 Posts: 2541 Loc: Morningside Heights	Is there that much demand for service to South Ferry?
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#410563 - 03/01/08 05:49 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: Alon]
Jamal BK3 Jamal BK3 Straphanger Registered: 06/22/05 Posts: 267 Loc: In the hinterlands of Brooklyn	I think R-7's plan is more about allowing the 2 to run express 24/7 while keeping the same late night local headways on the Broadway 7th Ave. line. Edited by Jamal BK3 (03/01/08 05:53 PM) _________________________ HH - Court Street Shuttle Court Street to Hoyt-Schemerhorn Streets
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#410573 - 03/01/08 06:07 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: Jamal BK3]
Alon Alon Subway Engineer Registered: 08/25/07 Posts: 2541 Loc: Morningside Heights	Ah... I see. More evidence that there's a Biblical commandment I haven't heard of that says late night headways must be 20 minutes per line.
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#410582 - 03/01/08 07:04 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: mta36]
Gtrain_hostage Gtrain_hostage "The Mole" Boring Machine Operator Registered: 02/20/02 Posts: 908 Loc: between birth and death	chambers or 14th street would be better- i'd run it express- its 23 or so min from 148 to 14th just over the 20 min hdway that could be solved with just TWO trains, say if it ran to 42nd, but by operating exp to 14 or even chambers., dont give me that switching backup nonsense- the next sb 2 is back at like 79th street lol- it could move greater number of ppl thru manhataan to points south whwere they could catch up to a 1 to south ferry for teh mad si ferry dash or to path trains- just a fw blks south or the A one blk east on church st. id sooner exit and re-enter system at a nearby station than wait til god know when for the 2. also having it go past 42nd will alleviate the crowding that will be made worse by making it a terminal station with crazy kids and drunks not wanting to exit for relay for example, or those who need a LIRR train one stop south at penn sta. spkg of southerly extensions, id move for the 6 to bowling green too, it would give crew virtually nil SB recovery, but it would help riders wiating to go to fulton st for transfer to the A which'll be on a GO anyway, or for the ferry..
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#410591 - 03/01/08 08:58 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: Gtrain_hostage]
Alon Alon Subway Engineer Registered: 08/25/07 Posts: 2541 Loc: Morningside Heights	Late at night, the express is about 8 minutes faster than the local between 96th and Chambers. Are late night riders that pressed for time?
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#410625 - 03/02/08 12:50 AM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: Jamal BK3]
R-7 SEPTA Local R-7 SEPTA Local New York State Governor Registered: 10/13/04 Posts: 8520 Loc: Hudson River Valley, NY, USA o...	Originally Posted By: Jamal BK3 I think R-7's plan is more about allowing the 2 to run express 24/7 while keeping the same late night local headways on the Broadway 7th Ave. line. Perfectly stated my friend.
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#410626 - 03/02/08 01:00 AM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
Princelex Princelex Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 07/06/04 Posts: 1052 Loc: Co-op City, Bronx NY	Originally Posted By: R-7 SEPTA Local Originally Posted By: 7th Avenue Express I don't think the 3 will be local with the 1 and 2 already running local. The 3 will probably terminate on the express tracks at Times Square, then relay between there and 34th street, then switch to the uptown express tracks to come back uptown. agree 100% about what the routing will look like. If the TA wanted to create late night service on 7th Ave/Bway line this is what they should have done. *7th Ave/Broadway route late night only under my plan.* #3 Local between 148 St and South Ferry. #2 express in Manhattan 24/7. #1 remains the same. I actually think this is a good idea. Express service is restored and all of Manhattan is served entirely with this plan. It's a win-win for all of the 7th Avenue riders. _________________________ May U Live 2 see the Dawn - Prince
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#410629 - 03/02/08 01:24 AM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: Princelex]
Alon Alon Subway Engineer Registered: 08/25/07 Posts: 2541 Loc: Morningside Heights	My instinct is to support a plan where the 1, 2, and 3 are all local, but I'm not sure about the levels of service. Next time I'm in Midtown at night and take the 1 home, I'll take note of ridership on the 2 vs. on the 1 to see if 10-minute headways on the Lenox branch are justified.
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#410640 - 03/02/08 11:08 AM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: Alon]
Relay Relay Straphanger Registered: 01/10/08 Posts: 268 Loc: New York City	The work program should soon be available for us to look over. When I see it, I'll let you all know what exactly it is that the night 3 service is going to do. _________________________ Photobucket:- http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/ii205/Relay-Metro
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#410715 - 03/02/08 04:52 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: Princelex]
cotb16 cotb16 Subway Engineer Registered: 12/25/05 Posts: 2759 Loc: Morrisania, Bronx	Originally Posted By: Princelex Originally Posted By: R-7 SEPTA Local Originally Posted By: 7th Avenue Express I don't think the 3 will be local with the 1 and 2 already running local. The 3 will probably terminate on the express tracks at Times Square, then relay between there and 34th street, then switch to the uptown express tracks to come back uptown. agree 100% about what the routing will look like. If the TA wanted to create late night service on 7th Ave/Bway line this is what they should have done. *7th Ave/Broadway route late night only under my plan.* #3 Local between 148 St and South Ferry. #2 express in Manhattan 24/7. #1 remains the same. I actually think this is a good idea. Express service is restored and all of Manhattan is served entirely with this plan. It's a win-win for all of the 7th Avenue riders. The biggest plus is for South Ferry riders heading from SI. _________________________ All That I Needed Was You In My Life You're So Right, All That I Wanted Was You, You Made All....
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#411180 - 03/06/08 04:51 AM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: cotb16]
EE Broadway Local EE Broadway Local TWU President Registered: 11/28/06 Posts: 3996 Loc: Ariz. by way of N.J. & N.Y.	I see - a short express run which will make the (3) (D) and (Q) the late night expresses and keep ten minutes service at the local stations. Makes sense. _________________________ On A Clear Day, You Can See Forever......
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#413418 - 03/19/08 06:57 PM Re: The (3) Train Thread [Re: R-7 SEPTA Local]
DivTen DivTen Straphanger Registered: 01/26/08 Posts: 53 Loc: Bronx, NY	SEPTA, that would be a great idea. This plan needs to happen!! The best (reasonable and realistic) subway improvement idea I've heard in a while. If there is 24/7 express service it should be the (2) not the (3) Late night 3 service would decrease crowding on the uptown 2, especially weekends. Is it me or does it seem the 2 is the only train that is consistently standing room only at 2am.
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