Are there relay tracks for terminating a line at Fulton?

The M do need more service on weekends to help the J.

Make it really useful - extend the M to Jackson Heights along the NYCRR and into the unused level at the IND!!!

Don't they rent there?

I think it's a total waste of money to extend the M. The J already has 9 to 10 minute headways - you don't need a combined 4 to 5 minute headway during those time periods. What you *should* do, is force the connection at Myrtle between the M shuttle and the J train. Even if the Metropolitan Ave bound M shuttle has to wait TEN MINUTES for the connecting Jamaica bound J to arrive, just keep the M waiting and waiting until the J pulls in. You could hold the Essex/Chambers-bound J train at Myrtle for even 4 or 5 minutes to wait for arriving passengers on the MyrtleAv-bound M train. (Or adjust the schedules so that they "meet" each other better.)

I think it's a total waste of money to extend the M. The J already has 9 to 10 minute headways - you don't need a combined 4 to 5 minute headway during those time periods. What you *should* do, is force the connection at Myrtle between the M shuttle and the J train. Even if the Metropolitan Ave bound M shuttle has to wait TEN MINUTES for the connecting Jamaica bound J to arrive, just keep the M waiting and waiting until the J pulls in. You could hold the Essex/Chambers-bound J train at Myrtle for even 4 or 5 minutes to wait for arriving passengers on the MyrtleAv-bound M train. (Or adjust the schedules so that they "meet" each other better.)

Ain't it the truth! No other area this close into the city is this isolated. And transfering can make the trip far longer.
(Glad to see people are finally complaining. Perhaps that's why they are finally proposing this, after decades of acting as if nobody lived over here).

And that ends up making the travel longer anyway. Like the people who already caught the last M, now they have to wait an extra ten minutes for a delayed J. It would just be better if we had our own train to Mahnattan like everyone else (except the G, Franklin or Rock Pk., but at least their connecting trains don't only go to lower Mahnattan, requiring more transfers and time!)

I had worried about the combined headway from Myrtle to Marcy being an excuse to say it wasn't needed, but it won't kill anyone if those five stations got the extra service. The J is often pretty full (or at least SRO) after I make the transfer at Myrtle.

What I would rather see for the weekends is to do the M/V combo then! And now; I have just worked out a concept for starting it up, and without even having to use Jamaica equipment.

It would take about 3 hours to make the entire round trip from Met to Continental, and if at 10 minute headways, then requiring about 18 trains. Or if 12 minutes, then 15, etc. Sometime in the mornings, some through trains would start out from Met. Then, some would also start out at ENY Yard or borrow the J's stored at Canarsie even, if necessary, run light to Myrtle middle, then go in service towards Met, and then head off to Manhattan.
Not only would this provide the necessary staging (since Fresh Pond Yd cannot hold 18 trains), but it would also provide the northound service to Met when the Manhattan bound trains are leaving and not returning yet, AND maintain the reverse "peak" shuttle, since the through trains from Manhattan to Met would not be needed earlier on. (and you wouldn't even have the alternate shuttle and through trains you have during the brief weekday transition from shuttle to Manhattan service!)
The first train would complete its round trip, around the time the putins would cease.

Of course, the evening transition back to the shuttle would be the reverse.

If you still think that much service is not needed, then there is always the possibility of using short trains. Eventually it will all be 160's, so just cut some and take those out. (This might also raise the question of making it OPTO, and that might be attractive to them, as it is less staff, but then that would be an awful long line for OPTO).

For evenings, I always thought it would be nice to have the midtown service as well, but the V is still running, and you have less time to stage the service like that. Plus, I'm sure they will not want to take the chance of confusing the Jamaica based equipment with the ENY based equipment if you had both services overlapping like that. (Like if there's a delay in the last Jamaica V of R46's, and it gets down to Bway-Laf. and Essex forgets to check, thinks it's an ENY R160 or whatever, and then brings it into Essex).

So for evenings, it would be better to use 2nd Av. (96th, and eventually 72nd St. middle) when it is open. Instead of those last Broad St. runs, they would head up there, and by the time the first one returns, it can be adjusted to fall right behind the last train from Bay Pkwy.
This would still overlap with the V, but at least it would be a separate line, and less likely to be confused with the V by Essex. (Call letters would have different line and starting terminal).

Well, even you acknowledge that the V should be extended via Culver. This, plus avoiding restricting tthe V to smaller capacity BMT East-compatible equipment is why I avoid an M-V combo on weekdays. 72nd/2nd would be the only hope for midtown service on weekdays, and even that would probably not fly, as it would be squeezed in with the F and V.