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#395272 - 12/26/07 11:21 PM Use of 42 st shuttle
nyccommuter0212 nyccommuter0212 Tourist Registered: 12/16/07 Posts: 16 Loc: NYC	whats the point of this shuttle when you can use the 7?
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#395278 - 12/26/07 11:36 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: nyccommuter0212]
FamousNYLover FamousNYLover MTA Board Member Registered: 01/12/05 Posts: 6101 Loc: Staying until St. Patty's in O...	Somebody already ask this question way before, but welcome aboard, nyccommuter0212. Please feel free to introduce yourself at topic called Welcome New Members and Old Members, too if you did not yet. Here is link. Times Square-Grand Central Shuttle. _________________________ Yuki Endo, celebrity in NY has return to Big Apple.
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#395297 - 12/27/07 12:37 AM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: nyccommuter0212]
Lex Express Lex Express Lord of the Post Registered: 06/27/02 Posts: 15779 Loc: Springfield Gardens, Queens	The shuttle relieves the crowding of the 7. It is also easier to transfer from the shuttle at Times Square. _________________________ "This stop is Silver Spring. Red Line to Glenmont. Next stop is Forest Glen".
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#395404 - 12/27/07 08:41 AM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: Lex Express]
Alon Alon Subway Engineer Registered: 08/25/07 Posts: 2541 Loc: Morningside Heights	The point of the shuttle is that the line was already there, and the 7 was a later addition, a way of giving IRT riders from Astoria and Corona a one-seat ride to Times Square.
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#395543 - 12/27/07 05:22 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: Alon]
R62A 2012 R62A 2012 New York State Governor Registered: 11/06/02 Posts: 8695 Loc: NJ	Well, the shuttle is the original 42 Street crosstown line, being part of the original 1904 IRT subway. In 1918, when the IRT completed both the East Side and West Side main lines, the crosstown section remained in place as a shuttle to connect the two main lines. It has been since. The IRT Queensboro division (7) only was extended west of Grand Central in 1926-28. _________________________ The R36 Celebrating 40 years on land and at sea 1964-2004
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#395563 - 12/27/07 06:30 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: R62A 2012]
RokuSix RokuSix NYC Council Transportation Committee Chairperson Registered: 07/28/07 Posts: 2252 Loc: The Bronx!	I think the shuttle is useful. Coming from the 6 track at Grand Central, finding the 7 is a pain. It's easier to head to the shuttle. _________________________ The Pelham Express at your service. ~_^
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#395698 - 12/28/07 04:30 AM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: RokuSix]
Grand Concourse Grand Concourse Lord of the Post Registered: 06/26/02 Posts: 17900 Loc: Manhattan	From MNCR to the S it is easier, but from the 4/5/6 I feel it is easier to take the 7 rather than walk the whole corridor towards the S.
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#395718 - 12/28/07 09:37 AM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: Grand Concourse]
FamousNYLover FamousNYLover MTA Board Member Registered: 01/12/05 Posts: 6101 Loc: Staying until St. Patty's in O...	I agree with Grand Concourse. I have taken both. If you're in very end of Lex Av platform, 42nd St shuttle is far, but (7) isn't. When you're close to 42nd St Shuttle, it's ok. Plus on weekend, they ran 20 min each on Sat and 30 min on Sunday. (S) is also backup for (7) when construction halts it from coming to Manhattan. If there was no shuttle, it would be like this. For example: It would be like this fantasy. http://www.whereandy.com/pdfs/56543.9197202.pdf. (Note to New Members: This is fictional posters.) Passengers would not like to transfer to buses because crosstown buses take so long with busy heavey traffic from both side of tunnels. Edited by FamousNYLover (12/28/07 09:38 AM) _________________________ Yuki Endo, celebrity in NY has return to Big Apple.
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#395726 - 12/28/07 10:10 AM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: FamousNYLover]
FamousNYLover FamousNYLover MTA Board Member Registered: 01/12/05 Posts: 6101 Loc: Staying until St. Patty's in O...	Originally Posted By: FamousNYLover: CORRECTION I agree with Grand Concourse. I have taken both. If you're in very end of Lex Av platform, 42nd St shuttle is far, but (7) isn't. When you're close to 42nd St Shuttle, it's ok. Plus on weekend, they ran 20 min each on Sat and 30 min on Sunday. (S) is also backup for (7) when construction halts it from coming to Manhattan. If there was no shuttle, it would be like this. For example: It would be like this fantasy. http://www.whereandy.com/pdfs/63092.3476214.pdf (Note to New Members: This is fictional posters.) Passengers would not like to transfer to buses because crosstown buses take so long with busy heavey traffic from both side of tunnels. _________________________ Yuki Endo, celebrity in NY has return to Big Apple.
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#395759 - 12/28/07 04:33 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: FamousNYLover]
R62A 2012 R62A 2012 New York State Governor Registered: 11/06/02 Posts: 8695 Loc: NJ	The opposite is the case at Times Square, where it is easier to access the 7 from the Port Authority than the shuttle. _________________________ The R36 Celebrating 40 years on land and at sea 1964-2004
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#395778 - 12/28/07 06:59 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: R62A 2012]
mohatesm7s mohatesm7s Tourist Registered: 12/28/07 Posts: 26	Originally Posted By: R62A 2012 The opposite is the case at Times Square, where it is easier to access the 7 from the Port Authority than the shuttle. yeah. whenever i have to get to the 7th avenue or broadway lines, i use the shuttle b/c its closer to those lines (the shuttle ends into the 1 train and uses stock assigned to the 3 train) while the 8th avenue lines are closer to the 7 and its a hell of a long walk from the shuttle to the a train _________________________ "Ding Dong...This is the train to Port Washington. The next stop is Great Neck"
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#395782 - 12/28/07 07:02 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: mohatesm7s]
FamousNYLover FamousNYLover MTA Board Member Registered: 01/12/05 Posts: 6101 Loc: Staying until St. Patty's in O...	1~3, N~W lines are close to 42nd St Shuttle, and A/C/E close to (7) at 42nd St-Times Sq/PABT. _________________________ Yuki Endo, celebrity in NY has return to Big Apple.
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#395803 - 12/28/07 09:27 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: FamousNYLover]
R62A 2012 R62A 2012 New York State Governor Registered: 11/06/02 Posts: 8695 Loc: NJ	Actually the IRT (1/2/3) is directly above the 7. _________________________ The R36 Celebrating 40 years on land and at sea 1964-2004
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#395951 - 12/29/07 02:17 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: R62A 2012]
toure toure Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 10/04/05 Posts: 1200 Loc: The Bronx	The shuttle is hard to find for me... _________________________ [[I HEART R68'S]]
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#395978 - 12/29/07 04:51 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: toure]
R62A 2012 R62A 2012 New York State Governor Registered: 11/06/02 Posts: 8695 Loc: NJ	It's right where you come out of the BMT (N/Q/R/W) at the 42 St (north) end. _________________________ The R36 Celebrating 40 years on land and at sea 1964-2004
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#396293 - 12/31/07 03:11 AM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: R62A 2012]
toure toure Transport Workers Union Steward Registered: 10/04/05 Posts: 1200 Loc: The Bronx	Thank you, R62A 2012 _________________________ [[I HEART R68'S]]
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#396593 - 01/01/08 09:35 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: toure]
sebbieprops sebbieprops MTA Board Member Registered: 06/15/07 Posts: 6650 Loc: Bronx NY 10459	I think its purpose is mainly for MNR riders to access the West Side. It isn't easy to get to if you're coming from the (4), (5), or (6), so if I'm coming down on one of those, I take the (7) over. It's easily accessible, however, from the MNR platform of Grand Central. _________________________ I never thought Prospect was between Cypress and Brook!
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#396671 - 01/02/08 01:11 AM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: sebbieprops]
R62A 2012 R62A 2012 New York State Governor Registered: 11/06/02 Posts: 8695 Loc: NJ	The shuttle is directly accessible from Grand Central's main hall from the west corridor, while the 7 requires passage through the main subway concourse and down another 80 feet of escalators. At Port Authority for those traveling to the East Side or Grand Central, the 7 is directly connected via the 41 Street corridor whereas the S shuttle requires a long walk via the IRT platforms, and BMT mezzanine or on street level via 42 Street. _________________________ The R36 Celebrating 40 years on land and at sea 1964-2004
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#396687 - 01/02/08 02:10 AM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: toure]
7express 7express Mining Dynamite Expert Registered: 09/17/07 Posts: 951 Loc: new haven line	Originally Posted By: toure The shuttle is hard to find for me... where are you comming from?? in times square once you get of the hallway, or step out into the hallway (depending what end of the train you were on) head towards the N/W/R/Q and you should see it. just walk past that entrance and its right in front of you. if your comming from GCT follows signs for the terminal, and right before you go through the turnstiles, you should see a passageway off to your left, thats the shuttle passege.
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#396702 - 01/02/08 04:37 AM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: 7express]
R62A 2012 R62A 2012 New York State Governor Registered: 11/06/02 Posts: 8695 Loc: NJ	If coming from street level at Times Square, use the 24-hour entrance at the south side of 7 Av & 42 St which will have the shuttle at the bottom of the escalator beyond fare control. _________________________ The R36 Celebrating 40 years on land and at sea 1964-2004
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#399705 - 01/12/08 09:05 AM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: nyccommuter0212]
Cassandra30 Cassandra30 Straphanger Registered: 01/10/08 Posts: 275 Loc: Elmhurst, Queens	Originally Posted By: nyccommuter0212 whats the point of this shuttle when you can use the 7? The 42nd Street Shuttle(S) used to run 24/7(All Times) until Sunday September 10, 1995. _________________________ "Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it." $;\)$
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#399816 - 01/12/08 05:31 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: Cassandra30]
Relay Relay Straphanger Registered: 01/10/08 Posts: 268 Loc: New York City	I've also worked the shuttle for more than just a few years. Trust me. It carries more than its share of the load. However, the station configuration, with regard to accessing the trains, is clumsy, to say the least. Track 1 is the easiest to deal with. Track 3 has an awkward access at Times Square where passengers have to walk around track 1. Track 4 is the absolute worst. NYCT has been mulling over a rebuild of the shuttle for many years, (which I believe is discussed at length in another topic). However, the last I heard, the shuttle (Times Sq station) renovation project is on the back burner for the time being. _________________________ Photobucket:- http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/ii205/Relay-Metro
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#399892 - 01/12/08 10:49 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: Relay]
Lex Express Lex Express Lord of the Post Registered: 06/27/02 Posts: 15779 Loc: Springfield Gardens, Queens	It's still better than walking down two levels to get to the 7. _________________________ "This stop is Silver Spring. Red Line to Glenmont. Next stop is Forest Glen".
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#399924 - 01/13/08 12:11 AM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: Lex Express]
R62A 2012 R62A 2012 New York State Governor Registered: 11/06/02 Posts: 8695 Loc: NJ	If you're going crosstown, the S shuttle is the choice. If traveling to Queens (or coming in and out of Port Authority), stay on the 7. _________________________ The R36 Celebrating 40 years on land and at sea 1964-2004
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#400059 - 01/13/08 06:21 PM Re: Use of 42 st shuttle [Re: Relay]
Grand Concourse Grand Concourse Lord of the Post Registered: 06/26/02 Posts: 17900 Loc: Manhattan	Originally Posted By: Relay I've also worked the shuttle for more than just a few years. Trust me. It carries more than its share of the load. However, the station configuration, with regard to accessing the trains, is clumsy, to say the least. Track 1 is the easiest to deal with. Track 3 has an awkward access at Times Square where passengers have to walk around track 1. Track 4 is the absolute worst. NYCT has been mulling over a rebuild of the shuttle for many years, (which I believe is discussed at length in another topic). However, the last I heard, the shuttle (Times Sq station) renovation project is on the back burner for the time being. That’s a shame. IIRC the project was to have the trains stop just before they make their entrance into the station ie: terminate ‘in the tunnels’. Also building new platform[s] would allow tracks one and three to run 5-car trains or a set rather than single units and having to use them in 3 or 4-car trains. Track 4, I wonder if it will still run or not, my guess is that there won’t be a need for track 4 once trains on tracks 1 and 3 are expanded. Edited by Grand Concourse (01/13/08 06:24 PM)
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