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#39141 - 10/07/06 10:19 AM Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Will there be Skip-Stop service for the L line after all the R160 & the CBTC is completed.
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#39142 - 10/07/06 10:31 AM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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I think it's a good idea, but it won't happen. This Ridgewood politican successfully boycotted skip-stop.
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#39143 - 10/07/06 12:46 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Also "L" Train with genefrication taking over Bushwick, Ridgewood and now even into East NY & Bed-Stuv would not the same problems that caused the downfall of the skip-stop on '1/9' line on Broadway occur here?

Many riders boarding at 'local' stops such as Montrose, Morgan, Dekalb/Wyckoff, etc.

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#39144 - 10/07/06 12:56 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Most of the L's ridership is at Rockaway Parkway, Broadway Junction, Myrtle, Graham Avenue, Lorimer Street, Bedford, and 1st Avenue. I think skip-stop could work, but the "local" stops wouldn't want to lose service.
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#39145 - 10/07/06 05:11 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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the line is too short anyway.
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#39146 - 10/07/06 05:20 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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I'm confused. The only reason the 1/9 and the J/Z had/have skip stop is b/c the had another train. Do you mean express service, like the 7?
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#39147 - 10/08/06 11:27 AM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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I think skip stop is not good because the L is local and skip stop would confuse people
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#39148 - 10/08/06 12:37 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Not only confuse people, but skip stop on the L would make it susceptible to delays over the littlest of interferences
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#39149 - 10/08/06 02:16 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Back in the early 90's, the MTA proposed a Skip/Stop service for the line. But it was dropped. Now if it did exist, the letter picked would have been (K).
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#39150 - 10/08/06 04:35 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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I'm confused. The only reason the 1/9 and the J/Z had/have skip stop is b/c the had another train. Do you mean express service, like the 7?
No. You have it backwards. The reason that "the had another train" is because one was needed for skip-stop to distinguish the two services.
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#39151 - 10/10/06 12:43 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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The L has no need for skip stop service. What time & purpose would it really save & serve for all riders?
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#39152 - 10/10/06 01:44 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Once CBTC is running the full length there would be no need for skip stop. CBTC is suppose to decrease wait times...
Jury is still out.
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#39153 - 10/10/06 03:16 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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As a prospective L train rider at an apparent local stop nearer Manhattan, I would not be happy to see my service halved for a likely negligible time savings from my stop. Maybe folks farther out on the line could benefit, but I would not. I suggest the route stay as is.
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#39154 - 10/10/06 05:59 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Maybe 10-15 years, it made since for skip-stop on the Canarise line. Now just like Upper Manhattan on Broadway(#1)line exploding in population, the people at 'local' stops in northeast Brooklyn near "L" line, i mentioned above would not be too happy.

If the TA was smart they should re-open the Crystie St connection for Bklyn.-Broadway line residents along Williamsburg, Bushwick, Bed Stuv. and more to relieve overcrowding on the "A" & "L" lines.

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#39155 - 10/10/06 06:51 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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The line is too short, and there are only 2 tracks, so this would be impossible. The L train already is too crowded, so running a skip-stop would not help it at all. Just confuse all the foreigners enough as it is. Maybe running it in 2 sections during rush hr might be better.
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#39156 - 10/13/06 03:37 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Or better yet, short runs from Myrtle to 8th Avenue.
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#39157 - 10/13/06 03:47 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Skip-stop for the L?

What upside is there to having that idea implemented.... There's enough problems on that line as it is....
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#39158 - 10/13/06 11:28 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Hey guys where would 'short trip' "L" trains be stored at if it terminated at Mytrle? Unless there a 3rd(middle track)somewhere between Dekalb & Halsey it makes no sense either.
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#39159 - 10/14/06 03:40 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Don't they have a pocket track east of Myrtle? During the two section GO's the L often terminated at Myrtle.
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#39160 - 10/14/06 06:41 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Originally posted by 2BatteryPark5:
The L has no need for skip stop service. What time & purpose would it really save & serve for all riders?
A faster ride for the people at all-stop stations. If headways were reduced to every 3 minutes, I don't think it would be that bad for the people at skipped stations.
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#39161 - 10/14/06 06:42 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Originally posted by ragazzapazza1024:
The line is too short, and there are only 2 tracks, so this would be impossible. The L train already is too crowded, so running a skip-stop would not help it at all. Just confuse all the foreigners enough as it is. Maybe running it in 2 sections during rush hr might be better.
What do those factors have to do with anything?
How would running it in two sections help at all? That would just make things worse.
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#39162 - 10/14/06 06:45 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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Don't they have a pocket track east of Myrtle? During the two section GO's the L often terminated at Myrtle.
Yes.
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#39163 - 10/16/06 01:36 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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The L has no need for skip stop service. What time & purpose would it really save & serve for all riders?
A faster ride for the people at all-stop stations. If headways were reduced to every 3 minutes, I don't think it would be that bad for the people at skipped stations.
No offense but the idea of skip stop service on the L is beyond pointless. It does not help the majority of riders & will be more hassle than it's worth.
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#39164 - 10/20/06 04:07 PM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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The L has several disparities. There are busy stations like Bedford Avenue. And there's stations like Bushwick-Aberdeen. Skip stop would provide quicker and more frequent service to the busier stations while providing less service to the less busy stations. Skip stop can work on the L.
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#39165 - 10/25/06 11:22 AM Re: Skip-Stop for the L line.
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I'm confused. The only reason the 1/9 and the J/Z had/have skip stop is b/c the had another train. Do you mean express service, like the 7?
No skip-stop for the L but hopefully the CBTC will allow for more TPH and therefore less crowding.

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