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#499040 - 07/20/10 06:41 PM MTA proposes pulling the plug on Long Island Bus
Qtraindash Offline
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MTA ponders cuts that could decimate LI Bus

Originally published: July 19, 2010 8:41 PM
Updated: July 19, 2010 10:20 PM
By ALFONSO A. CASTILLO alfonso.castillo@...

The cash-strapped MTA is considering pulling all funding from Long Island Bus, a
move that could decimate one of the nation's largest suburban bus systems unless
the state or Nassau County makes up the lost millions, transit sources said.

The move, which could strand many of Long Island Bus' 104,000 daily riders, is
on a laundry list of proposals expected to be revealed by the MTA at meetings
next week dealing with next year's budget. A separate money-saving proposal
would extend peak fares on the LIRR and charge peak fares for reverse commuters.

According to transit advocates and Metropolitan Transportation Authority
sources, the MTA, as part of its preliminary 2011 budget, will demand that
Nassau County and/or New York State come up with $40 million more to keep Long
Island Bus running.

Without the MTA's subsidies, which account for nearly a third of the overall LI
Bus budget, the system "would literally be obliterated to almost nothing," said
Ryan Lynch, spokesman for the nonprofit Tri-State Transportation Campaign, which
advocates for regional bus service.

The MTA already axed 11 Long Island Bus lines this year to save $1.6 million
toward its $800-million deficit. Transit advocates say without the $40 million
the MTA had been paying toward the system, LI Bus could afford to operate only a
small number of its 47 current lines.

It's not known how many or which lines might be killed or saved if that happens.

"It would be a couple of routes here and there," Lynch said. "It really raises
the question as to whether Nassau County is even going to have a bus system
anymore."

Nassau County, which owns LI Bus, pays just $9.1 million toward the agency's
$133 million budget. The state pays around $44 million, and the MTA and
fare-paying customers pick up the rest of the tab.

The Suffolk County Transit bus system received no financial aid from the MTA.

MTA spokesman Aaron Donovan declined to comment on any proposed changes before
their formal release next week. The office of Gov. David A. Paterson had no
comment. But MTA Board member Mitchell Pally said the long-fought funding battle
between MTA and Nassau County has reached a tipping point.

"The relationship between the MTA and Nassau County is continuing to be
re-evaluated by both sides," Pally, of Stony Brook, said. "The ability to be
able to come to an agreement is very, very important to everyone."

In a statement, Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano took umbrage at the MTA's
reported proposal, which he said comes after the enactment last year of a
"job-killing payroll tax" that has failed to keep the MTA afloat.

"The MTA continues to blame its financial woes on everyone but itself," Mangano
said. "The MTA's dysfunction continues to cost Long Island families and seniors
through service cuts."

With Sid Cassese







Inside the Numbers

Transit advocates and MTA sources say the MTA is considering pulling all
financial support for Long Island Bus. Here's a look at some of the numbers
involved:

The LI Bus budget is $133 million a year.

Nassau County, which owns LI Bus, pays just $9.1 million a year. The state pays
about $44 million. The MTA pays another $40 million, and the rest is made up in
fare revenue.

Without the MTA's financial support, sources say LI Bus may be able to afford to
maintain only a handful of its busiest lines, such as those running to and from
Jamaica, Queens.

Last month, MTA Bus eliminated 11 bus lines and reduced service on eight others
to save $1.6 million a year.

LI Bus carries about 6 million riders a year on 47 lines.




Fare increases considered

The MTA is considering several options to increase fare revenue by 7.5 percent
next year. Some of the ideas on the table:

LIRR

Extend peak schedule times an hour in the morning and evening. Currently, higher
peak fares are charged from 6 to 10 a.m. westbound, and 4 to 8 p.m. eastbound.

Charge peak fares for travel in either direction. Now only westbound morning
riders and eastbound evening ones are charged peak fares. About 2.4 million
customers reverse-commute each year, or less than 3 percent.

Reduce ticket discounts, including the difference between off-peak and peak
tickets and the discount for monthly commutation passes.

Offer discounts for customers traveling within Long Island to promote
intra-Island commuting.

SUBWAYS AND BUSES:

Charge 25 cents more for single ride MetroCards, raising the fare to $2.50.

Add a $1 surcharge to buy new MetroCards.

Impose a 90-ride limit on previously unlimited 30-day MetroCards.

Reduce discounts for multi-ride MetroCards. Charge 25 cents more for single ride
MetroCards, raising the fare to $2.50.

Add a $1 surcharge to buy new MetroCards.

Impose a 90-ride limit on previously unlimited 30-day MetroCards.

Reduce discounts for multi-ride MetroCards.

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#499047 - 07/21/10 08:46 AM Re: MTA proposes pulling the plug on Long Island Bus [Re: Qtraindash]
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QT: More rough news from the MTA concerning funding for the LI Bus operation - I never realized that the MTA itself subsidizes
this operation the way it does and Nassau County only pays a small percentage of its total cost.

With the Republican Party now back in charge in Nassau County
it will be interesting to see how they will address this crisis...Will Ed Mangano come thru for Nassau County's LI BUS
riders? Nassau Republicans have not been transit-friendly in the past remembering their thoughts on this bus service...

The writer mentions Suffolk Transit not getting any MTA funds -
Since it is not a MTA service it receives no MTA money.
Perhaps it is a good thing that the MTA has not moved ahead on any ST takeover as far as riders are concerned...

I noticed the changes the MTA is considering for fares and I feel
that large fare increases along with the bad economy can make a bad situation even worse and the last thing the MTA needs is a large ridership loss after a regressive fare increase...

In these situations I am hoping that everyone can agree on solving this crisis in a creative manner because millions
of transit riders depend on these services and their decisions
affect us all if we use transit or not!

Thoughts and insight from MACTRAXX
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#499053 - 07/21/10 08:49 PM Re: MTA proposes pulling the plug on Long Island Bus [Re: MACTRAXX]
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Well the Democrats haven't been transit friendly either, the subsidy was actually cut alot more under Suozzi than Gulotta! They have been having this battle every year, and it has now come to a head.
Both parties here care didley-squat about transit. Their short sighted greed will deal a huge blow to Nassau's economy.
From what I heard the MTA will keep buses rolling if Nassau agrees to increase it's subsidy, gradually, over time.
The ball is in the County's court now. I am calling my representatives, thats for sure!
Really ashamed to be a Nassau resident. I may plan on moving if this goes though. It'll be the final blow.

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#499063 - 07/24/10 03:26 PM Re: MTA proposes pulling the plug on Long Island Bus [Re: Qtraindash]
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This is worse as a LIBus Rider means less buses to run.
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#499147 - 08/03/10 12:19 PM Re: MTA proposes pulling the plug on Long Island Bus [Re: Q89LCL]
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Why is every government entity pulling its funding from the MTA?
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#499177 - 08/06/10 02:10 PM Re: MTA proposes pulling the plug on Long Island Bus [Re: NX Sea Beach Express]
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Originally Posted By: NX Sea Beach Express
Why is every government entity pulling its funding from the MTA?
Because they are being stingy and just want to see the MTA Fail.
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