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#487443 - 07/01/09 12:51 PM Re: New Fare Info Effective June 28, 2009 [Re: Grand Concourse]
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Originally Posted By: Grand Concourse
It would be too 'complex' for this system, but you have a point though. Charge based on distance could earn some more revenue for the MTA, but at the risk of 'pricing out' the low income riders.
I think politicians would cry foul about that idea.


Complex? Tokyo alone has so many train lines, and whats interesting is that some of the train lines are owned by private companies...even dept store companies...here MTA monapolize everything.

I don't think the low income riders would be priced out. I'm a low income rider and I rather pay $3.00 if I live far away to get into Manhattan and less if I live really close, than $3.00 for the whole system. I wouldn't want to pay $3.00 to go two stops..
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#487554 - 07/02/09 12:18 AM Re: New Fare Info Effective June 28, 2009 [Re: Miss W Supporter]
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I'm saying riders now knows there is one flat fare at $2.25. And they can buy for multiple fares up front. What happens should they need to go to some place they've never been to before and didn't have the money?

And I'm just saying politicians would side with the other low income riders and saying they would be priced out of the subway.

You can't just implement a system another city our country uses for a system that has been single fare only since it was created. It isn't that simple.

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#487622 - 07/02/09 09:51 PM Re: New Fare Info Effective June 28, 2009 [Re: Grand Concourse]
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The new MTA fares make many commuters wonder "What about the bonus left on my old Metrocard?"

If $2 is left, add $10. This makes a new bonus of $1.50, which combines with the old bonus and the new $10 to make $13.50, a multiple of $2.25 (leaving no awkward residue). If the old bonus is a multiple of $2, use the corresponding multiple of $10. For example, you could square off $8 by adding $40. If the multiplication goes above $45, note that all patterns repeat after $45. So $12 left could be fixed by adding $60, or more cheaply with $15 = 60 - 45.

If the residue is fancier (involving pennies), use a credit card and apply the same principles using $27.40 (which adds a penny to the residue) or $17.60 (which subtracts a penny). The math gets tougher, but it will firm up your brain muscles.

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#487634 - 07/02/09 10:56 PM Re: New Fare Info Effective June 28, 2009 [Re: Grand Concourse]
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Originally Posted By: Grand Concourse
I'm saying riders now knows there is one flat fare at $2.25. And they can buy for multiple fares up front. What happens should they need to go to some place they've never been to before and didn't have the money?

And I'm just saying politicians would side with the other low income riders and saying they would be priced out of the subway.

You can't just implement a system another city our country uses for a system that has been single fare only since it was created. It isn't that simple.


I see. And I understand about the potential of going somewhere and not having the money and buying multiple fares. I have delt with this in Japan and thought it would have been easier to just buy a basic monthly pass and save money. I wasn't able to keep track of my rides since each ride was a different fare, but at the same time, I felt like it was nice when I took the train one or two stop away for a $1.60...here I walk if its less than three stops because its more expensive (no more being lazy, xD). I do feel like ppl who live closer to their destination(s) wouldn't want to pay as much as ppl who live far away, but thats just me.

I just feel like train fares are getting ridiculous. I love riding the train, but soon riding the train a month is going to be just as expensive as owning/driving a car a month and thats just plain sad...and trains don't even run on gas! What gives..
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#487652 - 07/03/09 09:44 AM Re: New Fare Info Effective June 28, 2009 [Re: jnqckz]
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Originally Posted By: jnqckz
The new MTA fares make many commuters wonder "What about the bonus left on my old Metrocard?"

If $2 is left, add $10. This makes a new bonus of $1.50, which combines with the old bonus and the new $10 to make $13.50, a multiple of $2.25 (leaving no awkward residue). If the old bonus is a multiple of $2, use the corresponding multiple of $10. For example, you could square off $8 by adding $40. If the multiplication goes above $45, note that all patterns repeat after $45. So $12 left could be fixed by adding $60, or more cheaply with $15 = 60 - 45.

If the residue is fancier (involving pennies), use a credit card and apply the same principles using $27.40 (which adds a penny to the residue) or $17.60 (which subtracts a penny). The math gets tougher, but it will firm up your brain muscles.


Welcome aboard.
There's NYC MetroCard Bonus Calculator online.
http://www.metrocardbonuscalculator.com/
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#487692 - 07/03/09 11:45 PM Re: New Fare Info Effective June 28, 2009 [Re: FamousNYLover]
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Hello Famous, thanks for the pointer!

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#487988 - 07/06/09 07:01 PM Re: New Fare Info Effective June 28, 2009 [Re: Yankeefield]
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Since the fare is only going up a quarter, people should rearrange their budget...

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#488007 - 07/06/09 08:33 PM Re: New Fare Info Effective June 28, 2009 [Re: 219]
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Everyone: Back on 6/28 I was in the 7 train stop at 40/Lowery at midnight-at the exact time the binary clock reached 12:00 am the fares indeed changed NOT at 12:01 as I previously remember. The date changed on the reader and in the MVMs the new fares were in and ready almost instantly.

Another thing to remember: On all Unlimited cards the pass expires at midnight of the final day of use with the exception of the one day pass-which is valid until 3am.
I have a 7-day card right now expiring July 6th-it is useable until 11:59 pm tonight.
You have to use your card to enter the Subway or board the Bus by then-at 12:00am with the new day beginning
the card will no longer be valid.

At one time if you used your Unlimited card before midnight you would get a single transfer useable for the usual 2 hours 16 minutes elapsed time but the MTA changed it for the card to totally expire at the end of the block of days the card is valid for.

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